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Entry 1755 — Robert Frost

Tuesday, March 17th, 2015

The best English-language poets are named Robert, but Robert Frost would have been a favorite poet of mine even if he’d been named Adolph.  I consider his “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening” the best straitverse poem I’ve encountered. So it was nice to see a review of a newly available volume of his letters in the latest issue of The New Criterion–although no surprise, considering how little interest to it poets younger than dead for forty years, figuratively if not literally, are.  It was good, too, to learn that the reviewer,  Andrew Hamilton, feels this collection of letters “should serve as a thorough corrective to (the view of Frost’s main biographer, Lawrence) Thompson as a “monster”–although I never have thought of him as anything but a sometimes cranky decent man, myself . . . although he’d be on my list of great poets however bad a human being I agreed he was, and that comes close to all that counts with me.

I bring him up not only to get another blog entry out of the way so I can go back to bed but because the quite interesting review of his letters   mentions his writing in one of them about how appropriate the language of his poetry’s is “to the virtues I celebrate.”  “Virtues.”  Didacticism. Poetry with a moral.  Horace’s stupid pronouncement that poetry should teach as well as please–although it usually comes up in reverse to the way I have it, reminding people that poetry should please as well as teach.  I’m an extremist here although I contend I usually seek the middle between extremes–unless I go for both extremes simultaneously.  I believe poetry should give pleasure, period.  Any teaching it tries to do will only distract from that.

But the first poem of my own I thought okay (the one in my 14 and 15 March entries)  pushed the virtue of wilderness versus ordered sterility.  My one about “tr,af:fi;c.” had nothing to with any virtue, though.  Which doesn’t mean someone trying to force it into everything could charge it with celebrating the virtue of winter serenity or something.  It does that.  A higher virtue it can be said to honor is the simple virtue of sensual awareness.  Perhaps at an even higher level it expresses my own religion’s highest virtue, reverence of the universe.  Urp.

But all this indicates is that virtue is a part of any poem to some degree.  Ergo, to permit discussion of virtue in a poem to be of value, one must distinguish explicit references to standard abstract virtues like honesty and tolerance (two of my favorites) from implicit references, implicit reference, that is, which the context of the poem fails explicitly to suggest may be there.  Only poems concerned with the first kind of virtue should count as moral poems.

I use the same kind of reasoning to justify my contempt for the frequent declaration that all poems are political.

By this reasoning, I consider my favorite Frost poems “lyrical,” which I use for poems the main intent of which is to give aesthetic pleasure, and little or no moral improving.  Ergo, “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening” is not a moral poem–although it does convey a moral meaning: duty before pleasure, or something about the importance of fulfilling responsibilities.  Frost’s use of this moral message is brilliant, though: it’s only a frame to attach his much more interesting characterization of his persona to, whereas that characterization is only a ladder to a scene (in a [mood]) . . .  in Time.  But it’s all also in a poem, a poem that is a box of sounds as another sense that poem makes.

My traffic poem goes directly to the scene, with a box of punctuation taking the place of Frost’s box of sounds, and my poem as a whole doing less than Frost’s–but, I would argue, more for poetry.

Actually, my poem has a persona, too.  He just isn’t physically in the poem the way Frost is in his.  Nor is he brought anywhere near alive.  But he’s watching the sky’s descent.  He’s punctuating along with the traffic. . . .

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Hey, everybody, wasn’t that a nice essay?!  Well, except for the snide remark about the provincialism of the The New Criterion.  Someday maybe I’ll write a little essay like this that’s all nice.  It may be a while, though.

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Entry 74 — Poetic Densities, Continued

Thursday, January 14th, 2010

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.        Sonnet 18
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.       Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?
.       Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
.       Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
.       And summer’s lease hath all too short a date.
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.       Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines
.       And often is his gold complexion dimmed.
.       And every fair from fair sometime declines
.       By chance or Nature’s changing course untrimmed.
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.       But thy eternal summer shall not fade
.       Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow’st.
.       Nor shall Death brag thou wandr’st in his shade
.       When in eternal lines to time thou grow’st.
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.       So long as men have breath and eyes to see,
.       So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
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Shakespeare, 140 syllables,  116 words (because I count “sometime’ as two words) to give a semantic density of .83.  That’s lower than I estimated yesterday because when I forgot that not all its words of more than one syllable had only one more than one.  So Frost’s poem is quite a bit higher than Shakespeare’s.

The sonnet has a surprisingly low euphonic density: .09.  It makes up for that in repenemic density.  I have the figures somewhere to measure that with but am not up to finding them just now.

Entry 73 — “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening”

Wednesday, January 13th, 2010

As long-term readers of my blog will know, one of my projects is an in-depth study of Shakespeare’s “Sonnet 18.”  I’ve also been interested in Frost’s “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening.”  While thinking about it recently, I realized how few polysyllabic words it had.  Always ready to formulaize something if I can, I soon came up with a (possibly) new characteristic of poems, semantic density.  It is equal to  the number of syllables in a poem divided into the number of words in the poem.  It turns out the Frost poem’s semantic density is .86, Shakespeare’s about the same.   I suspect few other poems have as high a semantic density, but I haven’t investigated the matter.

.                 Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening

.                 Whose woods these are I think I know.
.                 His house is in the village though;
.                 He will not see me stopping here
.                 To watch his woods fill up with snow.

.                 My little horse must think it queer
.                 To stop without a farmhouse near
.                 Between the woods and frozen lake
.                 The darkest evening of the year.

.                 He gives his harness bells a shake
.                 To ask if there is some mistake.
.                 The only other sound’s the sweep
.                 Of easy wind and downy flake.

.                 The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
.                 But I have promises to keep,
.                 And miles to go before I sleep,
.                 And miles to go before I sleep.

Technically speaking, there are seventeen polysyllabic words in this poem, one of them three syllables in length, all the others just two in length.  I do not count “farmhouse” as a single word, though, since each of its two syllables has a clear separate meaning, “farm” really being an adjective pushed into a noun, “house.”  And I count “”sound’s” as two words, because it is: “sound” plus “is.”  Yet is is only one syllable in length.  So, to get the semantic density of the poem, we divide 110, not 109, by 128

Once become mathematically irreverent toward about the ratio of words in a poem to its syllables, I thought of other density ratios applicable to poems: e.g., euphonic density or the ratio of euphonies (long-o‘s, long-u‘s and “ah”-sounds) to number of syllables in a poem, repenemic density (repenemes to syllables, a repeneme being a repeated melodation such as alliterationor rhyme, the latter counting as two repenemes) and–this one I especially like–oddword density.  This would be the ratio of unusual words to syllable-count, with “unusual” being what a word is that comes up only a certain low number of times in s large sample of contemporary writing.

The euphonic denisty of Frost’s poem is just under .20.  I’d be surprised if many other poems have a euphonic denisty that high.  I’ll check Shakespeare’s “Sonnet 18″ tomorrow.

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