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Entry 1742 — A New Page & More Crowley

Wednesday, March 4th, 2015

Here’s the link to what will become but is not yet The Runaway Spoon Press Homepage.  You can also get to it toward the bottom of the entries to the right under “Pages.”  I hope eventually to have a table of contents from which you can click to any of the authors of works my press has published and read about their Runaway Spoon Press books and see samples of the work in them.  (Thanks to Karl Kempton for the good suggestion to create it.)

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And here I am, finishing my latest “discussion” with Paul Crowley (which, who knows why, I failed to post yesterday although it was ready to post):

PART TWO of Bob Contra Paul
> > Why do almost all those that have encountered it, consider it
> > insane?
>
> They ‘know’ that the poems were written by an
> illiterate, who had illiterate parents and illiterate
> children.

Why does almost everyone with any knowledge of Shakespeare who has encountered this assertion of yours consider it insane?

> > Oh, and why have you presented no valid argument against
> > MY interpretation of Sonnet 18 as a comparison between a
> > summer’s day and the poem’s addressee, which ends with the
> > idea that the poem has made the addressee immortal?
>
> Because it’s not disputable. That’s how it was
> meant to read — especially for people incapable
> of seeing any more.
>
Not so.  My interpretation of the sonnet is that it is a comparison of a summer’s day to the sonnet’s addressee, etc,, AND NOTHING ELSE.  My arguments for the “nothing else” include my subjective opinion that your subjective interpretations of various locution and passages in the sonnet are invalid; that there are no other poems in the English language that do what you say this one does (except, for you, others of Shakespeare’s poems; that your interpretation requires the sonnet’s author to be someone a huge amount of direct evidence says was not its author; that it is my subjective view, which I share with many others, including poets and critics of note, that the sonnet is a superior example of lyric poetry as we interpret it, and would be debased by the kind of sub-text you find conceal in it, but severely disturbing its tone and breaking its unity and tangling its readers up in childishly stupid word-games.

(Note: Paul believes puns and other word-games, once solved, reveal the poem to be addressed to Queen Elizabeth and concern Queen Mary of Scots, and other nobles, during 1566, when its author, the Earl of Oxford, was 16!)

> > Why is it invalid for me to simply assert that all your attempts
> > to invalidate my interpretation are too inept to count as
> > arguments?
>
> Because I have never made any such attempts.

Good.  Now I can say my interpretation completely explicates the poem because no one has proven it wrong, or even produced an argument against it.
>
> > Paul, you have no idea at all of how science, history, literary
> > criticism, the human mind and people work.  You can’t just
> > gather facts and apparent facts and force them into a theory
> > you like, then assert that it is unarguably true because you
> > alone say it is.
>
> Every new statement in science, history, literary
> studies, etc., starts out that way.  It’s up to the likes
> of you to point out where it goes wrong — if you can.

I can’t recall any new statement in science that started out with its author claiming it was true because he alone said it was.  Nor do I know one that was wholly rejected by EVERYONE knowing of it, as your has so far been–unless you can produce someone will to say he accepts your interpretation as valid, or even more valid than any other.

> > What you really have to do is first write a detailed exposition
> > as to you methodology and why it is valid.
>
> I have, and there is nothing special.  Read the
> words and phrases and check them against
> the events in (and during) the life of the poet
> which could have prompted them.

That’s not “nothing special.”  What all competent explicators of poems do is read the text and figure out what they mean, checking a dictionary if necessary, and being on the look-out for figures of speech and literary allusions.  If that doesn’t produce a plausible, unified of what the poem is saying, then one might study the poet’s life to see if there’s anything in it that the poem might relate to.  However, we need know absolutely nothing about the author of Sonnet 18 fully to gain full normal appreciation of it as a poem–although appreciating it as a part of literary history or as an example of the human creative process or as an item out of the life of a known once-living human being or the like ius possible, too.

Your method is close to worthless, and has been classified as such by critics for close to a century as worthless.

> > You should also discuss how others determine authorship and
> > tell us why their methods, most of them greatly different from
> > yours, are flawed.
>
> There is — broadly — no difference.  Everyone
> who studies the Sonnets asks ‘How do they
> relate to the life of the poet?’

No, they don’t.  Most just read them.  Many literary scholars, however, have a NON-LITERARY interest in them because they want to find out about their author.  Your question, for them, comes after the question of what the sonnets are about and their evaluation as being so good that one wants to findout who their author was, if unknown, and anything else about they can.

> Strats come up with absurd crap such as that the line ‘from
> hate away she threw’ puns on ‘Hathaway’. And that’s the sole thing they can get to ‘match’

Actually, it makes a better match than anything you’ve come up with for Oxford.  But Stratfordians, as you seem unwilling to reveal, have found a much better match, the passage, “My name is Will.”

> from the 154 Sonnets!   There could hardly be
> better proof that they have the wrong guy. Marlites don’t do any better, and likewise for
> Baconians and the rest.  Sabrina does not
> try, AFAIR.

I think Sabrina does in her second book, which is mainaly about Sackville.  But DOZENS of people have found all kinds of things in the sonnets that they think reveal the personwho wrote them, and that includes a lot who think Shakespeare wrote them.  Rowse comes to mind.

Here’s Wikipedia on Rowse and the sonnets:

Rowse’s “discoveries” about Shakespeare’s sonnets amount to the following:

The Fair Youth was the 19-year-old Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton, extremely handsome and bisexual.
The sonnets were written 1592–1594/5.
The “rival poet” was the famously homosexual Christopher Marlowe.
The “Dark Lady” was Emilia Lanier. His use of the diaries of Simon Forman, which contained material about her, influenced other scholars.

Christopher Marlowe’s death is recorded in the sonnets.
Shakespeare was a heterosexual man, who was faced with an unusual situation when the handsome, young, bisexual Earl of Southampton fell in love with him.

Rowse was dismissive of those who rejected his views, but he did not make such assertions without supplying reasons. In the case of Shakespeare, he emphasized heterosexual inclinations by noting that Shakespeare had managed to get an older woman pregnant by the time he was 18, and was consequently obliged to marry her. Moreover, he had saddled himself with three children by the time he was 21. In the sonnets, Shakespeare’s explicit erotic interest lies with the Dark Lady; he obsesses about her. Shakespeare was still married and therefore carrying on an extramarital affair.

Frankly, I thought Rowse was a jerk.  Imagine my chagrin when I found out just now that I also believe “Shakespeare was a heterosexual man, who was faced with an unusual situation when the handsome, young, bisexual Earl of Southampton fell in love with him.”  I also lean toward the ascription of Southampton as the fair youth.  Sabrina gives a good argument for that: there is a line in one of the sonnets about how the author has NAMED the fair youth in his writings, and the only person Shakespeare ever named was Southampton, in his dedications to his narrative poems.

> The Oxfordian PT merchants are just as bad —
> generally ‘reading’ each Sonnet and asserting
> that it matches some crazy scheme that (for no
> good reason) they have decided is appropriate. Whittemore decides (for no reason in particular)
> that the poet wrote one Sonnet a week while his
> son (Wriothesley) was in prison, starting at #1
> and ending at #154.  He ‘matches’ them week
> by week.  Alan Tarica (another PT nut) decides
> (for no particular reason) that the Sonnets were
> written in reverse order.  So he starts with #154
> and works backwards to #1. https://sites.google.com/site/eternitypromised/
>
> These schemes (and all others) require that you
> ignore the words of the Sonnet, merely claiming
> that each one says what you vaguely think it
> vaguely ought to say.

So you assert, Paul, but your opponents are as convinced that they are right as you are that you’re right.

> >> So all you have to do is show that (a) Sonnet 18
> >> could _just_as_well_ have been written for the
> >> Battle of Hastings, or the Siege of Troy — or any
> >> historical episode that you care to select  OR
> >> (b) finding some other sonnet or poem that could
> >> _just_as_well_ fit the events at the court of Mary
> >> Queen of Scots around February and March 1566.
> >
> > It exactly fits both the battle of Hastings, and the Australians
> > conquering of Atlantis in 9,456 B.C. because “so long” is
> > used twice in it, and salami was the chief food of both the
> > Australians and the Chinese who fought in the Battle of
> > Hastings.
>
> Yeah. yeah.  Deep criticism.

You can’t refute it.

> >> IF my reading is false, either of those courses would
> >> be easy.  Look at some really bad readings of the
> >> Sonnets — such as from Hank Whittemore or from
> >> Jim F. in this newsgrouip or from any Strat perfesser.
> >> Anyone could readily take one of their ‘interpretations’
> >> of a particular poem and show that it is so shallow
> >> that it could apply to almost any text or any occasion
> >> OR (b) when they do get into some kind of detail,
> >> showing that it bears little relation to either the
> >> words of the text or the facts of history, or both.
> >
> > Your confidence in your interpretation is entirely subjective.
>
> No.  Part of it comes from the purely rhetorical
> nature of the ‘objections’ that I get from you and
> others.

Sure.  Nothing we say is of any substance,  How do you know?  Because you have examined what we’ve said and found it to have no substance.  That doesn’t work in real scholarly pursuits, Paul.

> > To assert it is right will not make it right for anyone but you.
>
> It’s your total inability to present sensible arguments
> against it that is so convincing.

Ah, “my TOTAL inability.”  Odd that I’ve never met anyone who was totally unable to present ANY sensible arguments against my views.  How can you believe your argument to be so exquisitely perfect that no one can present a sensible argument against it.  But a sane person would know, for instance, that the fact that in more than one sonnet their author calls his addressee “a boy” is a sensible argument that the addressee is a boy.  An assertion that the author is joking, if accepted, would defeat the argument, but NOT make it not sensible.  To get the assertion accepted, though, evidence for it would be useful, and you have none.  Only your recognition that your delusional system would fall apart if if were false.

> >>> Showing it impossible would be impossible.
> >>

I suspect that I took the word, “impossible,” from you.”

> >> Your rigidnikry again. In effect, ‘highly unlikely’ in
> >> this context means ‘impossible’.  For example,
> >> there is no reasonable likelihood that Mamillius
> >> (in Winter’s Tale) represents Raleigh (which is
> >> what you or someone said was Richard Malim’s
> >> claim) — for the reasons I gave yesterday.
> >> Mamillius was royal and immediate heir to the
> >> throne. Raleigh was a low-born cad — in the view
> >> of every courtier of Elizabeth, especially in that
> >> of the 17th Earl of Oxford.

Here again you put one of your main flaws as a thinker on view, Paul: you fail to recognize how various people are.  It is quite likely that Raleigh, who made quite a name for himself, and was an important member of an intellectual group Marlowe and Spenser were part of, so he must have had SOME friends.  He may even at times been Oxford’s friend.  He was Elizabeth’s at times.  And Oxford could have only pretended to like him during a time when Raleigh’s star was ascending.  Friendships can change from day-to-day.  You weren’t there.

Note: he has a much higher reputation today than Oxford among non-Oxfordians.  In fact, your denigration of him is ridiculous.

> [..]  (Paul’s snip)

> > First of all, Paul, you are arguing that a fictional character
> > represents someone else.  You have to show why the
> > character is not entirely fictional.  You don’t.
>
> Of course I do.   Hamlet’s mini-play “The Mousetrap”
> was supposedly fictional.  But we all know — as King
> Claudius also sees — that it wasn’t  Many in that court
> could have shown it wasn’t ‘entirely fictional’ by
> pointing out the parallels between King Claudius and
> the actions depicted in the mini-play/.  They were too
> many and too close to have been there by chance.

Very direct parallels but the only direct evidence we have that the play was supposed to be about a real event is that Hamlet tells us it is.  Who tells us Hamlet is really about Oxford?  As for the parallels, there are many parallels between Hamlet and the life-stories of other besides Oxford, including King James, and there are many differences between Hamlet and each of them, which you ignore.

There is also NO document indicating that anyone took any of Shakespeare’s plays to be about the real court of the time.

Aside from that, the convincing parallels are between Hamlet and  its source.

> Likewise for Sonnet 18, or for Viola being Raleigh,
> or for Elizabeth being ‘the Phoenix’ and Oxford ‘her
> Turtle’ or for the numerous other parallels.  You
> dodge every challenge to deny them — resorting to
> rhetoric and other crap ‘arguments’.

You have no direct evidence of any of that.  I can’t remember my arguments against Raleigh as a girl, but I’ve repeated a few of my Sonnet 18 arguments, and they are not “rhetoric” or crap arguments, unless I agree to let you be sole judge of the matter, which makes the debate irrelevant.  You need just publish your findings, and in a preface tell the reader that you’ve examined everything you’ve said in your book and found it to be correct, so they have no reason to doubt any of it.  Just to make sure they accept your findings, add that no one has ever refuted any of them or even present a sensible argument against them.

I believe it was Copernicus’s failure to do this that kept his ideas from being universally accepted for so long.  It makes science and related disciplines So much easier.

> >>> Why should we have more works in his name?
> >>
> >> Good authors are not common.  When someone
> >> demonstrates good writing skills, we’d expect to
> >> see them employed.
> >
> > You’re missing my point: I’m assuming that if Sackville was the
> > True Author, we’d only have work from him in his front’s name,
> > not from him, as because the case, you claim, for Oxford.
>
> In practice, the most difficult part of any anti-
> Stratfordian case is to demonstrate the WHY
> and the HOW such ‘an extensive’ cover-up was
> mounted.  Many Oxfordians fail in the respect
> (as a result of  adopting far too many Stratfordian
> assumptions) and, in  desperation, they fall back
> on PT crapology.  Most non-Oxfordians don’t even
> bother to try — since they know they have no case.
> For example, Sabrina dodges every question
> about HOW and WHY.  With the monarch and her
> successor providing the backing, it’s very easy to
> see how it worked.  Without the monarch, and
> her successor, it’s near-impossible.  But Marlites,
> Baconians, Sabrina and PT theorists rarely allow
> for the interests of the monarchy and its presence
> in the cover-up.

Don’t you realize that you asked why we have no late works from Sackville as we should have if he were a great author, and I told you why–we did, but they were in his front’s name.  You couldn’t let yourself admit that you had lost that argument, so jumped into a different argument against Sackville.

Sabrina’s answer makes sense to me: it is that Sackville did not want to his authorship known.  So it didn’t become known.  The court had nothing to do with it.

We have no strong reason not to accept that Sackville was simply odd.  You simply can’t understand that anyone might behave differently from the single way you think he would.  But how about a great author who suddenly becomes so bored with what he’s been doing, or becomes depressed due to an endocrinological problem related to old age, and stops thinking his life’s work has any value.  Did you know that Groucho Marx as an old man once view one of the greatest of the Marx Brothers films and said he could figure out why anyone thought it was funny?

Anyway, the beauty of Sackville’s not caring about posterity is that it greatly simplifies the Great Hoax.  Just a few people knew The Truth while Sackville was alive, and within a decade or two of his death no one any longer did.  And there would have been no need to leave fatuously silly “clues” for posterity.  Just about everything could be taken as above board.

> If Sabrina provides no indication of the HOW
> and the WHY, then there is no point in bothering
> with her theory.  It’s not got off the ground.

Her WHY is the standard “stigma of print” for noble authors.  She argues it better than other anti-Stratfordians have, it seems to me.  You should buy her book and study it.  I’d be surprised if there were nothing in it you could use.

Her HOW is far more elegant than yours: Sackville simply wanted to write plays for the public theatre and did so anonymously until he met Shakespeare, a second-rate playwright who had priated a play of Sackville’s and rewritten it as his.  Sackville saw how well he could conceal his identity if he let the Stratford hack continue taking credit for his plays.  Sabrina allows just a few others to be in on the secret, including Jonson.

I think it would be very difficult for you to find anything wrong with it except the flaws I find as a Stratfordian in it which you could not accept because they work as well against Oxford as against Sackville.  For instance, the stigma of print.  You can’t refute it for Sackville without refuting it for Oxford.  And the absence of direct evidence works the same way against all anti-Stratfordian candidates, so can’t be used.  Etc.

I do know you think Oxford had to conceal himself because of how damaging his plays would be taken to be if known to be by a noble, expecially one as high up as Oxford.  I don’t think Sabrina uses this argument for her man, but she could.

Whew, I got through your whole post.
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Entry 1741 — Arguing Against a Crank, Again

Tuesday, March 3rd, 2015

Today I felt too tired (although I’d had a decent night’s sleep, for me–over six hours), to do anything after just a little over an hour of tennis (doubles, which isn’t that demanding), and–earlier–my set of exercises which now take me about a half-hour, and a run of about a mile and two-thirds, very slowly.  After lunch, though, I came into my computer room to at least post something here.  As a warm-up, I got involved in the SAQ (Shakespeare Authorship Question), which is probably my most insane hobby, especially when it involved my Primary Opponent, Paul Crowley, as it often does, and did this time.

As I was bouncing along giving as good as I got (I think) I began wondering what I was getting out of my interaction with Paul.  Hey, I thought, I spend so much time getting nowhere with Paul in order to find out why I spend so much time getting nowhere with Paul.

I’m sort of serious here.  One thing I’m trying to do is work out a definitive analysis of crankery–and, it looks like–of counter-crankery, which is close to as insane.  Another thought: that by studying a crank theory one gets a better idea of what I’d call a validiplex or sane understanding of some significant field, or significant portion of a field.

It’s a genuine sport for me, too–a chance to exercise my brain, with very little of importance in the balance.  Finally, when I’m in a day that’s clearly going nowhere, I can shove what I’ve said to Paul into a blog entry like this one, hoping others may find it amusing, and at times interesting (because I sez profundities all the time, even to Paul!)

My ado out of the way, here’s the latest episode of the Bob ‘n’ Paul show:

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:21:04 AM UTC-5, Paul Crowley wrote:
> >> That’s just not the way they were thinking.  They
> >> (entirely justifiably) believed that as soon as anyone
> >> looked properly at Stratford and it environs, and at
> >> the nature of the Stratman, and his background,
> >> those investigators would forget any possibility that
> >> he could have written a poem, let alone any of the
> >> great works.
> >
BOB:They were extremely mistaken, which suggests they were not
> > very intelligent, after all.
>
PAUL: It’s very easy to underestimate stupidity, and
> very hard to predict the future.  Also they did not
> grasp the extent to which ignorant uneducated
> low-class people (editor’s note: Paul does not
> consider himself any kind of snob) delighted in the idea that a
> great writer could emerge from their own ranks.

BOB: Many educated and even upper-class people went along with it.  Aside from that, there are many ways of arranging things so as to pretty much insure that the Truth would be revealed in much less time that it has taken–for instance.

You simply assume that a perfect hoax was easy except for making sure Oxford got proper credit within a reasonable time, which was impossible, and impossible even for the geniuses carrying out the hoax to realize.  Because you say so.  You have no direct documentary evidence of such a hoax whatsoever.

> >> My statement that “Sonnet 18 was written in
> >> London in (or close to) April 1566″ is a very simple
> >> factual one.  IF it was false (and if the supporting
> >> arguments were erroneous) then it would be very
> >> easy to demonstrate the falsity.

BOB: It is false for probably at least a hundred reasons, but impossible for you to accept any of these reasons as even arguments.  For instance, Shakespeare’s name, not Oxford’s, is on Sonnet 18, but that’s not an argument against your theory because the name was a lie–according to you, although there’s no direct evidence that you are right.  Oxford, who you say wrote Sonnet 18, was only 16 at the time, although the sonnet can be shown to have been (1) far superior to any poem Oxford was known to have written; (2) far superior to any poem known to have been written by a 16-year-old; and (3) equal to the best of the works of its author when he was surely a much older man, as well as far better than other works of its author when he was surely older.

There is also the literary history of the period concerning how the poets of the time influenced each other, which would have to be scrapped if Oxford wrote Sonnet 18 in 1566. This literary history is subjective, but based on a huge number of facts about the times, and about the way creative poets work.  You merely assert that those who have contributed to this history are incompetents.

It occurs to me to ask you why they are incompetents–besides the fact that they refuse to accept Oxford as Shakespeare.  Granted, from your point of view, that is an insane mistake, although there is no direct evidence that ought to make a competent scholar accept that Oxford was Shakespeare.  But what else?  Did they get the English victory over Spain right?  Were they right about Francis Drake?  Were they right that Spenser wrote the Faery Queene?  Possibly not.  It seems to me, as a dabble in your thinking, that you consider them COMPETENT wherever their reasoning matches yours.  So you probably consider their thinking about Jonson correct, except regarding Jonson’s Shakespeare-related writings.

My problem is that the more I think about your scenario, the more incredibly complex it becomes–without leaving any direct evidence that things were as you say.  Take Lyly, for example–credited with important novels and plays influencing Shakespeare, but for you a front man for Oxford–or was he just a mediocre writer that Oxford helped?  Greene was fictitious, although many other writers wrote about him.  Marlowe probably fictitious.  The whole literary history of the times was, according to your scenario, much less like the experts in the period say it was than the Christian fundamentalists idea of biology is like Darwin’s.

You really should carefully write up your history of England from 1530 or so until 1630.  Why won’t you?  You shouldn’t want someone like me to give my version of it.  And you have no followers who would do it for you. The HLAS archives might be lost–and even if not, the material there by you would be hard to organize.

PAUL explains his method of determining what a poem means:
> >> The question is something like “Does this piece of
> >> this jigsaw fit this gap?” — when it’s a complicated
> >> shape, with many patterns on the piece in question
> >> and in that part of the picture of the jigsaw.  You can
> >> disprove the matching by (a) showing that such a
> >> piece could readily go elsewhere, OR
> >> (b) showing that there were many other pieces that
> >> would fit the gap as well.
> >
BOB: If this is so, why do no other attribution scholars use your
> > procedure in determining authorship?
>
PAUL:  There is nothing exceptional in what I do. If you
> come across an unsigned letter, you identify
> who wrote it by linking some person to the acts
> and circumstances mentioned.

BOB:  Shakespeare’s works were signed.
>
PAUL: Whereas most  ‘attribution scholars’ are looking at
> works they see as completely non-autobiographical

BOB: How can you keep saying that, Paul?  What you MUST say as a sane literary investigator is that “most ‘attribution scholars’ are looking at works they see as NOT SUFFICIENTLY autobiographical TO BE MUCH HELP IN IDENTIFYING THEIR AUTHOR.”  Actually, however, attribution scholars are making no effort to identify the author of Shakespeare’s works.  You’re speaking of what might be called ‘attribution-defenders.’  As one of them, I say that (1) the hard evidence for Shakespeare, a man known to have lived at the right time in the right place to have written the Shakespearean Oeuvre, is sufficient for him to be taken as their author insomuch as there is no direct evidence against him, so we need not bother trying to relate his life to his works; (2) we know too little about his life to relate it in any kind of detail to his works; (3) his works, except the sonnets, are clearly not based on their author’s life–e.g., he didn’t become bewitched in an Athenian forest by a faery named Puck.

PAUL: and they are trying to pick up clues from style and
> word-usage.  They would be only a small part
> of my interest.

BOB: It’s the only part that is in any way scientific, and–however flawed now–will almost surely settle the matter eventually.  (Paul elsewhere had claimed that literary history is just as scientific as anything else, including physics.  Hence, if his theory was wrong, I should be able easily to scientifically dismantle it, which–needless to say–I can’t.)

BOB: Why do no historians use your methods in determining what
> > happened at various points in history?
>
PAUL: Of course they do. They study the documents of the
> day, and glean what they can about the interests
> and motivations of the people involved. So they
> often change their minds on people like Richard III,
> or Thomas Cromwell and Thomas Moore.

BOB: Do they decide certain prominent figures were fictitious, or as good as fictitious the way you believe Shakespeare (the owner of New Place, according to the deed to that property), was?  How much of what they say can they claim is objectively true the way in chemistry its true that a base plus an acid will yield (in normal conditions) a salt and water?
>
> > BOB: Why does no one agree that your interpretation of the sonnets is correct?
>
>PAUL: Like you, they have not put in the work.

BOB: How is that a good dodge considering that you can re-use it indefinitely?  (I am sure, by the way, that I’ve put more work into Sonnet 18 than you have.  I am also sure that many who have written complete books on the sonnets, which you have not, have done at least as much work on them as you.  They just don’t realize that all who have preceded them in their field have been incredibly wrong about who, when and where the sonnets were written and what they really mean–have, in short, taken them to be poems like all poems except for their details, and not the new kind of literature you think Oxford invented, the mixture of confession/personal philosophy/autobiography/journalism/gossip/who-knows-what disguised as world class lyrical poetry and verse plays.

HERE I decided to stop, although possibly more than halfway through Paul’s post.
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Entry 1736 — The Eurekaplex

Thursday, February 26th, 2015

The following is from an essay-in-progress I took out of the review I’ve been working on for centuries of Sabrina Feldman’s The Apocryphal William Shakespeare:

Thoughts on How an Intelligent Person like Sabrina Feldman Became an Authorship Skeptic

When, thirty or forty years ago, I first became actively involved in the Shakespeare Authorship Question (SAQ), I had read and thought about it enough to have been convinced that anyone who thought Shakespeare was not responsible for the works attributed for so many years by so many intelligent people who had studied him, his works, and his time were flat-out insane.

But I soon also perceived that many of them seemed otherwise mentally normal, and even more or less as intelligent as I took myself to be (when trying to be objective enough about that to ignore how vastly superior in intellect to anyone else ever born the megalomaniac in me told me I was almost as often as my sometimes endocrinologically-crippled Poorest Self told me I was an irrelevant imbecile . . . and therefore possibly only more intelligent than 99.99% of the world’s population).  How could this be?  How, for instance, could Charlton Ogburn, Jr., even now considered among the SAQ immortals by anti-Stratfordians, as Shakespeare-doubters are formally known?

Ogburn, Wikipedia informs us, graduated from Harvard in 1932 and wrote and worked in publishing. During World War II he joined military intelligence, leaving with the rank of captain. He returned to the US to begin a career with the State Department.

After the success of his story “Merrill’s Marauders”, a Harper’s Magazine cover story in 1957, Harper & Bros. offered an advance for a book and he quit the government to write full-time in 1957 and had a distinguished career as a journalist and novelist.  How could anyone term him insane?

Or similarly describe Sabrina Feldman, an anti-Stratfordian whose career, so far, is similarly distinguished, for she attended college and grad school at Cal Berkeley, getting a Ph. D. in experimental physics.  Far from one-dimensional, she took a Shakespeare class taught by Stephen Booth, world-class Shakespeare scholar, while an undergraduate, and got the only A+ in the class!  She now manages the Planetary Science Instrument Development Office at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory—while doing her duties as a happily married mother of two.  Furthermore, among her most eminent friends is: Me (in spite of how opposed to her theory she knows me to be).  In short, gifted but more or less normal in every respect, and unarguably knowing enough about Shakespeare and his times for her thoughts about the SAQ to merit attention, although ultimately proving to be wrong.  However wrong her theory might be, however, it was clearly even more difficult to call her insane because of it than it was to call Ogburn that.

By the time I ran into Sabrina, though, I had stopped calling Ogburn and others opposing my man insane.  I continued to think their SAQ views insane, though, so coined the word “psitchotic” to describe them—they were “psituationally psychotic”—or only crazy about one subject (or, not about so many things to need drugs, electrotherapy, confinement to a nuthouse or the like).

At first, because of Ogburn and many of the anti-Stratfordians I had exchanges with on the Internet (mainly at a site created for unmonitored discussion of the SAQ, HLAS (humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare), I thought that all the formidable anti-Stratfordians were what I termed rigidniks.”

Back in my middle twenties, I had begun my own life as a theorist without credentials, going a bit loonier quantitatively than Ogburn and the others turning out theories about who really wrote the works of Shakespeare with a theory intended to explain the whole human psychology, giving the  book I then wrote about it and self-published, An Attempt at a Total Psychology.  It included a fairly wide-ranging theory of temperaments that posited the existence of various temperament-types of which the most important—in the present version of the theory—are the “rigidnik,” “milyoop” and “freewender.”   I could write a full book about each of these, I believe, but for now will sum them up as being rough equivalents of (in order) David Reisman’s “inner-directed,” “other-directed” and “autonomous” personality-types.

While Ogburn was definitely a full-scale rigidnik, and many I argued with at HLAS seemed as rigidnikal as he, or even more so, I also began running into authorship skeptics that seemed much more flexible and tolerant than they, most of them Marlovians (those choosing Christopher Marlowe as their True Author) but at least one who was an Oxfordian.  An easy way to tell them from the rigidniks is that they much more willingly admitted that our side had a case.
Frankly, I wasn’t sure what to do with my outliers, so I merely changed my claim that all serious anti-Stratfordians were rigidniks to the claim that most of them were.  Some who were not were easy to categorize: they were milyoops, a trademark characteristic of whom was suggestibility.  Because of that, they became rigid anti-Stratfordians because too weak of character to resist the influence of some rigidnikal anti-Stratfordian.

But what about the anti-Stratfordians who seemed to me to have enough strength of character to have their reason overthrown by someone else and were also intelligent enough not to seem likely to fall for, or invent, a highly irrational theory of anything themselves, like several Marlovians I’d met, and then, only a few years ago, Sabrina Feldman?

TO BE CONTINUED
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Entry 1697 — SAQ Wack-Classification, Cont.

Monday, January 19th, 2015

As I was saying:

The fallaciplex a rigidnik crank is victimized by is a rigidniplex.  Almost all of a rigidnik’s knowleplexes in his magniscipience (where he is involved with questions outside the everyday like the SAQ) are rigidniplexes due to his innately excessively high basal cerebral energy (while in or mostly in his magniscipience and defective accommodance (i.e., ability to lower the level of his cerebral energy, which is the basis of creativity, among other things).  Nonetheless, some of his rigidniplexes are valid: Newton’s understanding of physics may have been rigidnikal, for instance.  (I have this suspicion that all the best theoretical mathematicians and physicists are rigidniks.)  The SAQ one is not, as I will later demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt.

That is a memory-complex that comes to over-ride any new information contradicting the understanding it generates.  Call it a fixation, or a permanent outlook.  The result is extreme inner-directedness based not on the interaction of continuing data but on what data was around at the birth of the rigidniplex.

Hence, if Shakespeare becomes important in his life, he must form a Shakespeare rigidniplex.  For reasons I’ll soon get into, this will become a delusional system based on some kind of insane conspiracy theory that someone other than Will Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works attributed to Will.

Soundbite definition of a rigidniplex: a mental structure that results in an understanding of some relatively large subject (that is much more often invalid than valid) that one possessing it can’t change his mind about.

The second kind of authorship wack, the milyoop, is a kind of pseudo-rigidnik.  His fallaciplex is named after him, too: the milyooplex.  It is the opposite of a rigidniplex, for milyoops suffer from a too low level of basal cerebral energy.  This causes them to form knowleplexes they are too weak of mind to defend.

The sanest kind of wack is the eurekan.  Usually he is the third type of the three my theory of temperaments hypothesizes, the freewender, but he can also be a strong milyoop or weak rigidnik (in real life, just about everyone is a mixture of the three types).  He will have a healthy mentality, perhaps even a superior mentality, but been done in by a Eureka moment.  A Eurekan moment can occur in almost any intelligent, creative person’s life.  What happens is he meets an apparent problem without the background knowledge properly to deal with it, then finds a brilliant solution—which is incomplete but which excites him too much for him to notice that.

His cerebral energy is not naturally too high, but can be driven high by the pleasure of suddenly finding an apparent solution to a difficult problem.  In the case of the eurekan, his burst of energy will allow him to build a fairly strong knowleplex, or understanding of the problem he believes he has solved.  Moreover, if society considers the subject his solution deals with, and Shakespeare is one of the largest cultural subjects there is for most people in the West with any culture at all, he will be filled with energizing anticipation of fame and fortune.

From then on, he will work on it, each time with the energy of a rigidnik because of the pleasure his brilliant solution is giving him.  As a result, he will make the knowleplex he began with into an artificial rigidniplex every bit as immune to reason as a natural rigidniplex.
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Entry 1696 — Some New Coinages

Sunday, January 18th, 2015

I’m hoping to do Important Work elsewhere today, so this entry will be short (unless I get inspired).  Currently one of the essays I’m working on concerns the kinds of people who become Shakespeare cranks–i.e., people who are pretty much permanently certain that someone other than the rube from Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works of Shakespeare.  So far there are three major kinds of Shakespeare cranks on my list: the rigidnikal, milyoopian and eurekan cranks. According to my wholly uncertified “knowlecular” theory of psychology, each of these cranks is the victim of a closely related but not quite identical group of inter-connected brain-cells in his cerebrum called a fallaciplex (fuh LAY shih plehks).

A fallaciplex is one of the brain’s two kinds of “knowleplexes,” or sets of brain-cell’s involved with a person’s understanding of some fairly large portion of reality (astronomy, say, rather than the moon as simply a bright object in the sky).  If the understanding of a given knowleplex is obviously wrong (i.e., demonstrated to be invalid by rigorous logic applied to nothing by the known relevant facts of the subject of the knowleplex under analysis–in the view of an overwhelming majority of people with knowledge of the subject involved), it is a fallaciplex.  The opposite of this is the validiplex.  This, as should be obvious, is a knowleplex that logic and all the facts have shown–for an overwhelming majority of those with relevant knowledge–to be valid beyond reasonable doubt.  All other knowleplexes can be considered validiplexes-in-progress until are shown to be maxilutely (i.e. as close to absolute certainty as any understanding can come) valid or invalid.

The crank’s fallaciplex is activated whenever he encounters the Shakespeare Authorship Question (SAQ (more than briefly).  It then fills his mind with a delusional system concerning the SAQ that he is almost completely unable to free himself from–although he’s unlikely to want to.

The fallaciplex a rigidnikal crank is victimized by is a rigidniplex.  Almost all of a rigidnik’s knowlexplexes in his magniscipience (where his involvement with questions outside the everyday like the SAQ) rigidniplexes due to his innately excessively high basal cerebral energy (while in or mostly in his magniscipience and defective accommodance (i.e., ability to lower the level of his cerebral energy, which is the basis of creativity, among other things).  Nonetheless, some of his rigidniplexes are valid: Newton’s understanding of physics may have been rigidnikal, for instance.  (I have this suspicion that all the best theoretical mathematicians and physicists are rigidniks.)  The SAQ one is not, as I will later demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt.

Soundbite definition of a rigidniplex: a mental structure that results in an understanding of some relatively large subject (that is much more often invalid than valid) that one possessing it can’t change his mind about.

The fallaciplex a milyoopan crank is victimized by is  the opposite of a rigidniplex, for milyoops, as I classify those who tend to form milyooplexes, suffer from a too low level of cerebral energy.  This causes them to form knowleplexes they are too weak of mind to defend.

To be continued tomorrow, I hope.  Right now, I suddenly need a nap–or a shot of cocaine, and I don’t know where to get any.

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Entry 1681 — Diana Price, Part 3

Saturday, January 3rd, 2015

A digression: to this point I have been speaking of “authorship evidence” whereas Price came to refer to such evidence as “literary evidence.”  Hence, her final term for the evidence all the writers of Shakespeare’s time had but he didn’t is CPLE, Contemporary Personal Literary Evidence.  Hence, it seems to me appropriate for me to switch from “authorship” to “literary” from now on, and use “CPLE” when writing of the invention of what she calls that—alone, except for other authorship skeptics.

As for Price’s two Shakespeare-Elimination Machines, we’re not finished with their components, for Price was too  large a champion of her cause to be satisfied with any old victory: she wanted an overwhelming one.  How she did it, I’ll never know, but she found a brilliant addition to her UAEA-Machine to do so, a mechanism I have dubbed her UnShakespeare Authorship Evidence Multiplier, or UAE-Multiplier.

Prior to her thinking of this, she had just one kind of contemporary evidence her 24 writers from Shakespeare’s time had but Shakespeare did not.  Not too impressive, especially since Shakespeare had a monument, which none of the others had, and a thick folio collection of his plays that only one of them had.  But maybe she never thought of the UnShakespeare evidence as of one kind only.  But not ten different kinds.  At some point the idea of ten different kinds, ten being a standard quantity for pop lists of things like a year’s best movies or America’s favorite names for boys or girls struck her.  From then on, she had ten different kinds of CPLE that 24 writers of Shakespeare’s time had and, according to her, Shakespeare did not.

It was not the easiest list to create.  In fact, she was unable to do so without full-scale or partial cheating.  For instance, one of her ten categories of Contemporary Personal Literary Evidence was “Evidence of  formal education.”  How is that evidence of authorship, or what Price called “literary?”  Note, too, that she ignores the strong circumstantial evidence that Shakespeare went to his local grammar school—all the attendance records of which have been lost, as they have at many other such schools of the time.

Sudden digression—to the fact that Price considers Ben Jonson’s personal testimony that he attended a grammar school as CPLE of his formal education, but does not consider WS’s personal testimony in the two dedications to his narrative poems as CPLE that he was the author of those poems.  I earlier posted my finding the latter to be good CPLE—what could be more personal that a man’s claiming in a prefatory text to a book that he was its author?  Sure, it could be a lie, but so could any other bit of CPLE.  If Jonson’s evidence of formal education stands, Shakespeare’s evidence of his vocation as a writer must also–In Price’s “Miscellaneous records (e.g., referred to personally as a writer).”

To get one extra kind of evidence into her list, she had to divide “Evidence of having been paid to write” in two, one of them keeping that name, the other taking the name, “Evidence of a direct relation to a patron.”  The latter, by the way, is taken not to apply to Shakespeare’s direct personal relationship with his patron, Southampton although his dedication to The Rape of Lucrece speaks of the “warrant” he has of Southampton’s “honourable disposition” strongly suggests that he had won patronage from the Earl with his Venus & Adonis, since in it he says that that warrant make Lucrece “assured of acceptance”—as does its tone of worshipful thankfulness.

True, neither of Shakespeare’s dedications explicitly mentions money changing hands, but so far as I know, about the only way poets made money from poems then was through the patronage of aristocrats, and the standard way of seeking it was via dedications.  But I can’t say for sure that Southampton didn’t receive Venus & Adonis by parcel post, and sending a thank you note to Shakespeare without meeting him that gave Shakespeare and orgasm.  We can also ignore the anecdotal evidence that Shakespeare received a large amount of money from Southampton in the nineties, not too long before he bought the second finest house in Stratford.

An even sillier multiplication of the evidence is Price’s having one category for “handwritten inscriptions, receipts, letters, etc., touching on literary matters”; and a second for “record of correspondence, especially concerning literary matters” (although how could this be literary if not about literary matters?) . . . and also the afore-mentioned category for “Miscellaneous Records!”  Not to mention a category for “Commendatory verses, epistles, or epigrams contributed or received!!!”

Yes, the members of each category differ ever-so-slightly from one another, but who other than Price would not put them all in one category for documentary identification as a writer by the writer himself or another writer?

Then there’s Price’s category for “Evidence of books owned, written in, borrowed, or given” which has nothing necessarily to do with a career as a writer.  Neither it nor the category for evidence of formal education belong on the list.  Which leaves four categories:  (1)  documentary identification as a writer by the writer himself or another writer; (2) the only 100% valid category, “Extant original manuscript”; (3) Evidence of making money from writing (although it could just as well be in category (1); and (4) “Notice of death as a writer”—oops, scratch that; why should one way of identifying someone as a writer be considered different from another?  In other words, why should my saying that my friend Joe is a good writer be considered a different kind of CPLE than my saying my friend Joe, the writer, died yesterday?

Except, of course, to win the approval of those incapable of rejecting any “evidence” apparently supporting their delusional system.

I can’t knock it.  Price’s book has become the Bible of those against WS.  It is worthless as scholarship, but a ringing success as propaganda.

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This essay, I just realized, lacks a proper beginning.  I had one, but chopped it off before posting the first part of the essay two entries ago.  I guess I felt it needed revision.  No worry, I won’t bother you with it.  I will let you know if I get the thing published anywhere.  Eventually, I’ll stick it into my “Pages.”  I liked it for a while, by the way, but toward the end, began thinking it not very good.  Oh, well.

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Entry 1680 — Diana Price, Part 2

Friday, January 2nd, 2015

Here’s the next section of my essay on Diana Price:

The other half of it was the copious evidence from Shakespeare’s lifetime, particularly the forty some odd instances of his name on the title pages of editions of plays published while he was still living, but also such important strong evidence as the private note by Gabriel Harvey previously mentioned referring to my boy Will as the author of Hamlet, Venus & Adonis and Lucrece, and Francis Mere’s many mentions of him in his Palladis Tamia: Wit’s Treasury, which may contain the strongest evidence for Shakespeare from his lifetime aside from the title-page names.

Price’s move against this was much more original than her disposal of posthumous evidence.  Rather than strike it down, as all authorship-skeptics before her as just a name that could as well be a pseudonym as a real name, she nailed it as impersonal, for she had found, or thought she had found, that not any of the evidence for Shakespeare from his lifetime was from him personally, such as a manuscript in his hand of one of his plays, or from anyone who knew him personally, such as a letter to him about how much the letter’s writer had enjoyed some play of his.  Obviously, such  . . . “evidence” can have little status compared to the personal literary effects of the man whose authorship qualifications are being examined or the testimony of those who actually personally knew him!

Certainly, it can’t be argued that such evidence is not far stronger than the testimony of someone who did not know Shakespeare.  After all, the latter could be mere hearsay evidence.  Be that as it may, Price was now able to eliminate, or at least greatly diminish, just about all the strong evidence for WS (all of it, in fact, so far as she was concerned, but—as I will eventually show, she was not necessarily right).  With its two filters, one for posthumous evidence she didn’t like, and one for what she came to call contemporary evidence that bothered her, the mean little Shakespeare Authorship Evidence Elimination Machine (or “SAEE-Machine”) she had, in effect, been working on (very likely without being aware of it) was, as so far described, enough to make her the equal of such greats in the WS-elimination cause as Delia Bacon, Mark Twain and John Looney.
The SAEE-Machine was only half of Price’s remarkable achievement, for she was acute of mind enough to see the need for a defense against the Shakespeare-affirmers who shrugged off the limited evidence for Shakespeare as inevitable considering how far from his times we are, and as no more limited than the evidence for all but one or two of the other known writers of his time, and ingenious enough to find one I deem the equal of her SAEE-Machine, which is high praise.

What she came up with, in effect, was a second invention, an UnShakespeare Authorship Evidence Acceptance Machine (or “UAEA-Machine”).  The function of this was to demonstrate the uniqueness of Shakespeare’s lack of contemporary personal evidence of authorship by finding it for a reasonably large sample of writers of the time.  This it succeeded in doing for 24 of them!

Price thus to this date feels justified in maintaining that only WS of the significant known writers of his time lacked what she has come to call “contemporary personal literary evidence” that he was a writer.  This is an interestingly propagandistic . . . misstatement.  I want to call it an outright lie, but can’t because I suspect Price believes it accurately to describe the evidence her SAEE-Machine (in her view) shows WS not to have had.  In any case, I feel a need to discuss it at some length.

First of all, the SAEE-Machine does not eliminate personal evidence.  It only eliminates explicitly personal evidence.  For instance, it eliminates Francis Meres’s testimony that Shakespeare wrote certain plays (twelve of them) that Meres names as not personal although it has no way of knowing whether Meres personally knew Shakespeare or not.  Nor do I or anyone else.  But he certainly could have.  After all, he seems to have known a great deal about Shakespeare’s literary career, including the suggestively personal fact that Shakespeare was distributing copies of his sonnets to friends.   He also expressed a large amount of admiration for him, enough that one would think he’d have tried to get the know him personally—perhaps through one of those among whom Shakespeare’s sonnets were circulating (if he wasn’t already one of them).  Can we conclude that Meres personally knew Shakespeare?  Of course not.  But we can’t say Meres did not know him personally; we cannot set his testimony aside, as Price does, for  not being personal.

It is here, by the way, that one of the most shrewdly propagandistic tricks Price uses (very subtlely most of the time) comes in, the either/or presentation of possibilities.  For her there are only two kinds of evidence having to do with whether it’s personal or impersonal: either indubitably personal evidence, or evidence that cannot be said to be personal.  That Meres’s testimony is much more likely to be personal than, say, John Weever’s in his poem of 1599 that praises three named works of WS’s but mentions nothing personal about him like Meres’s reference to the circulation of his sonnet to friends gives it no more evidentiary weight for Price than Weever’s has (close to zero, in other words).  That’s not how it’s done.  Genuine scholars may not literally give every piece of evidence concerning some question they are trying to answer some explicit value, but they due put it on an evidentiary continuum from maximally strong down to maximally weak with spots on it for various degrees of strength.  This has, over the centuries, proven to be helpful in solving problems things, especially those for which some answer has no piece of maximally-strong evidence supporting it, but a lot of reasonably strong pieces of evidence in its favor.  Propagandists rarely use such continuums, though, except when forced to—as, for instance, authorship skeptics are when arguing on behalf of the candidate to replace Shakespeare that they’re backing and even they can see they lack anything like even one maximally strong piece of evidence for him.

Not that what I call Price’s anti-continuumism matters to a great many of the people on the Shakespeare-elimination bandwagon, for they all take her to have shown (or, in many cases, proven) not that there is no personal evidence from his lifetime for WS but that there is no evidence at all from his lifetime for him.

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I expect to continue this thing for at least two more entries, so those of you uninterested in it would be wise to skip them.

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Entry 1679 — A Master Propagandist

Thursday, January 1st, 2015

Today I’ve been working on an essay about a book called Shakespeare’s Unorthodox Biography, which I consider a ridiculously stupid but very clever exercise in pure propaganda.  Its intention is to persuade fools that Shakespeare was not a writer.  I’ve written a great deal about Price and, in my opinion, completely destroyed her credibility as a genuine scholar.  But I have yet to do it effectively, which–for me–means not only cogently, but entertainingly.  Hard to do  because of the complexity of what Price has done.  Anyway, so far I have the following:

First of all, she sifted through as much data about the life of Shakespeare as she could, focusing on anything that indicated him to have been a writer.  Then, because her goal was not to answer the question of whether or not the evidence supported his being a writer, but to show that he could not have been one, she faced a huge problem: what to do about the copious evidence indicating that he was a writer.  As for the lack of any direct evidence that he was not, such as some letter by someone who mentioning his having pretended to write Hamlet, a play the letter-writer knew to have been by his fencing master; and the absence of any kind of half-reasonable circumstantial evidence against him, other than trivialities like his allegedly poor penmanship, or his not spending three pages of his will speaking of how much he had loved the books he must have owned had ha been a writer, and whom he was leaving them to, she would just ignore that.

Her main chore, then, was to find ways to discredit the evidence for Shakespeare. She was intelligent enough to understand that there had to be some evidence for him (although a substantial number of authorship … skeptics, I’ll be polite and call them … deny this).  There’s no way he could have become known as the great poet written of in all the standard college and pre-college textbooks if there had been no evidence that he was what the textbooks say he was.  While it may be true that many academics make their way in life by gathering credentials and positions rather than actually accomplishing anything, very few of them of entirely stupid.  The best of them, in fact, are true scholars (or more), and don’t accept conclusions about anything in their field that are entirely unsupported by valid evidence. Moreover, they have time-tested, widely trusted standard ways of determining the validity of evidence.  Not that fraudulence never works on them, but that it almost never does for long.  Similarly, they certainly (rather too often) fail to perceive conclusions that a reasonable amount of valid evidence supports, although—again—almost never for anything like the length of time that the expert academics in the field of Shakespeare Studies, for example, have rejected the theory that someone other than Shakespeare wrote the works attributed to him.

So far as the SAQ is concerned, Price had to have known from the outset what even authorship skeptics have long recognized as the two central strong-points on the evidentiary map of those convinced that Shakespeare was Shakespeare: the monument to him in his hometown, and the First Folio collection of the plays attributed to someone bearing his name.  The first of these provides enough evidence by itself (in the absence of any counter evidence) to establish beyond reasonable doubt that Shakespeare was a prominent author; the other provides a good deal more than enough evidence to establish beyond reasonable doubt that he was specifically the author of such famous plays as Hamlet and King Lear.  In short, Price had somehow to topple these two strong-points.

It was not difficult for her, for other authorship skeptics had already chosen to make the absence of evidence supporting the beliefs of their opponents their chief weapon (nearly their only weapon, in fact)—shrewd enough not to rely on evidence supporting their own beliefs since that was in very short supply, if not non-existent.  Hence, for over a century, they had simply ignored the monument and First Folio, chanting over and over, “There is no evidence from his lifetime that Shakespeare was a writer.”  Were they totally insane, one might wonder (let’s be polite for now, and consider this a rhetorical question).  What about his name on title-pages of so many published plays?  Ah, that was no problem for them: the title-page names only tell us that someone using the name William Shakespeare wrote the plays.  That is, they give us the author’s name—but nothing else.

From there, the authorship skeptics hop quickly into triumphant declarations about various absences of significant evidence for my boy Will, like someone’s referring not to William Shakespeare as an author, as Gabriel Harvey and many others did while he was living, but to William Shakespeare, resident of Stratford-upon-Avon where he was born in 1564, as a writer.  (Practically a complete description of a crank is, “One who can always find where some belief he considers invalid is incompletely supported evidentiarily: show a crank proof OJ’s blood was at the scene of the murder of his estranged wife, for example: interesting, but a crank refusing to accept OJ’s guilt will immediately ask for a photograph of him in the commission of the murder.  If someone had, the absence of the murder weapon would keep his guilt insufficiently demonstrated.  Etc.)

Hence, authorship skeptics had disposed of the monument and First Folio as evidentiarily relevant by pointing out that Shakespeare was not alive when the former was erected or the latter published.  They also declared both fraudulent or mistaken or some combination of the two.  In other words, they knew that saying the monument and First Folio were too late to count (although, scholars do find that the closer a witness’s testimony about some event is to the time of the event, the more likely it is to be valid—IF one ignores all other possible factors.  Which is to say, that the testimony of an inscription on a monument about someone dead for seven years, may nonetheless be near-maximally valid—if, as is the case with Shakespeare’s monument—the inscription would have been seen by hundreds of people who had known the person it was about, including his daughters and others who had known him intimately, and the monument was in a church unlikely to want it to become known that it . . . churched an outrageously-lying monument, and had a bust of the person it was about as well as his corroborated date of death to strengthen its evidentiary value—and there was no direct evidence or strong circumstantial evidence against it.

True, let me digress to say, that it could still have been fraudulent, but only if a hoax so complex that no authorship skeptic has come up with a plausible scenario to account for it, and near-impossibly so secret that no one has found a single unambiguous hint that it ever took place.

So, authorship skeptics have not utterly disposed of the monument and First Folio as evidence.  Instead, by reminding all that the evidence they provide is belated, and could have resulted from fraud or honest error, they have made them seem—to their followers if not to the sane . . . sorry, to their opponents . . . to some degree questionable, and even to some Shakespeare scholars, not sufficient to make the beliefs of Shakespeare-affirmers undeniable.  If you can’t obliterate a truth you don’t like, the next best thing to do is weaken it.  And, of course, push it as far from the center of the debate it is a part of, or should be a part of, as possible.

Following their example, Price decided that she would use only authorship evidence from Shakespeare’s lifetime to “answer” (i.e., reject) the question as to whether he had been a writer.  Half her battle was thus won.

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If anyone can point out any errors or unfairness so far in my case, or where what I say gets tedious, or goes off into irrelevance, or anything else that might help me make the essay the very bestest it can be, please let me know, in a comment or an email to me, [email protected].  I’m not sure what I’ll do with my essay once it’s done, assuming I feel it is the very bestest it can be, but I may try to sell it somewhere.  In any case, it will become part of one of my life’s works, my definitive study of the SAQ (Shakespeare Authorship Question).

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Entry 1655 — Back to the SAQ

Monday, December 8th, 2014

I’m hoping to get some worthwhile work done today, so am going to take care of this entry quickly with a comment I just wrote in answer to a comment by Robert A. Leff on a book about the SAQ (i.e., “Shake- speare Authorship Question”) by Richard M. Waugaman, M.D.

Leff: “I’m surprised there have been only three reviews of Dr. Waugaman’s book. I guess his many fans are busy writing their own books and articles, so they don’t have the time to post the usual five star Oxfordian reviews. On the other hand, perhaps his friends haven’t bought the book because the essays have been previously published. I have no problem with Dr. Waugaman gathering some of his many essays into one collection.

“Knowing how touchy Oxfordians are, I should start by saying I did not buy Dr. Waugaman’s book; I read the essays before. I decided to save my money.

“I’m aware of the long standing Oxfordian practice of declaring Edward de Vere wrote works scholars have said other authors wrote. Dr. Waugaman’s claim that Edward de Vere wrote The Art of English Poesy.  It is true that when the book was published in 1589, the author’s name does not appear on the title page.  Dr. Waugaman is free to propose any candidate of his choice as the author, so he selects Edward de Vere. The majority of English literary scholars and English professors say The Art of English Poesy was written by George Puttenham. Being a good Oxfordian, Dr. Waugaman hisses when the word orthodox is spoken or written.

“I’m sure Dr. Waugaman has read The Art of English Poesy many times, so it is a surprise he missed or overlooked the eighteen words that render his claim that Edward de Vere wrote the book nonsense. In Book 3 Chapter 13, the author writes,”Also in our ecologue entitled “Elpine, which we made being but eighteen years old to King Edward VI…” “Elpine” is a lost work. What is not lost are some important dates.

“George Puttenham was born in 1529 and died in 1590.
Edward VI was born in 1537, became King in 1547 and died in 1553.
If you subtract 1529 from 1547, the answer is 18. Refer back to the quote above and it is clear that 18 year old George Puttenham wrote an ecologue for the new king.

“But wait, you ask, what about Edward de Vere? In 1547, Edward de Vere wasn’t even a gleam in his parents’ eyes. Edward de Vere was born in 1550. When King Edward IV died in 1553, little Eddie was 3 years old!

“Dr. Waugaman and his fellow Oxfordians would have a difficult time convincing themselves and anyone that 3 comes close to 18 no matter how hard they spin things.

“Sorry, Richard M. Waugaman M.D., Edward de Vere did not write The Art of English Poesy.”

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Grumman: “Good argument, Robert, but it has a flaw, I think: why need whoever wrote the eclogue to Edward have written it at any particularly time? Why couldn’t Oxford have written it when 18 in homage to the dead king whose name he shared?

“For me the only flaw in Dr. Waughaman’s book is its failing to give more to the True Shakespeare than he rather timidly does; indeed, I can’t understand how it is that even the best Shakespeare scholars (i.e., those able to read past mere title-page names and such rubbish) cannot see that whoever wrote the plays of Shakespeare had to have written more than just the great literature in all European languages that he clearly did, but all the great music, starting with Campion’s.  And painted all the masterpieces of the age. I fear I’m not well-versed enough in the history of science to say which works of science and philosophy he was responsible for, aside from Bacon’s.

“In conclusion, I commend Dr. Waugaman for a fine beginning to a list of Oxford’s works, but hope even more energetic experts will come to the fore and complete our knowledge of his achievements. I would myself, but–alas–am too tied up with my work on Oxford’s invention of the English language, and the way his friends made it seem it had existed before he was born because they didn’t want his family embarrassed by the number of obscenities he included in his new language, to be able to do so.”

Amusing Aside: I am frequently characterized by those clever enough to see through the authorship hoax to back Willie because I am the kind of person who takes what he was taught in school as gospel!  Ah, if only it were not quite so completely untrue!  I might have gotten somewhere socioeconomically in my poor life.
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Entry 1601 — The Genius of Crowley, Part 2

Wednesday, October 15th, 2014

I claim that I don’t post so much at HLAS and elsewhere about Paul Crowley, even giving him a chapter in my book on the authorship question, to sadistically mock him, although I would never claim not to do that.  My main use of him, however, is as an incredible example of what I term “rigidnikry.”  In fact, I find him so incredible as being uncertain whether he is a real person, or some ingenious fictitious character made up as a caricature of the typical Oxfordian.  He has provided little data that would allow anyone to validate his existence.  I tend mostly to believe him real, but using a pseudonym.

Here from the other day is a post of his about the Latin inscription on Shakespeare’s monument that the sane have no trouble with but the wacks invariably consider a difficult problem in decoding:

judgement of piles, genius of 50crates, art of a marrow

Geddit?

IVDICIO PYLIUM, GENIO SOCRATEM, ARTE MARONEM,

TERRA TEGIT, POPULUS MÆRET, OLYMPUS HABET

An answer to the ‘Socrates’ problem.

The hidden meaning is “50 crates”.

This has been a joke among educated English classes
(such as Oxbridge students) since time immemorial.

The script as carved shows ‘Socrates’ in the usual form.
The ‘S’ is the same as that shown elsewhere in the
inscription.  Clearly the sculptor was not told of the
double meaning, or was told to ignore it.

Shame really, I’m sure no one who took the Stratford
story at face value would have noticed a ‘5’ in its place.

Paul

They aren’t content to claim that Jonson, whom many believe wrote it, simply wrote a lying epigraph that would fit the fake Shakespeare, they have to show he did that and hid The Truth inside it.  Everything by or about Shakespeare is an attempt to hide his true identity and an attempt to reveal it, or at least indicate that he was not Shakespeare.  They are thus what I call schizspiracy theorists.

Unable to resist such a gift to reply to, I wrote:

We already know from your superb work in the field, Paul, that no one in Stratford would even have looked at the inscription: it was hard to see, and they were all illiterate, anyway.  (Paul actually believes the monument was placed where no one would be able to see it well enough to read, no one would be xurious to know what it said, and only one or two able to read Latin.)  It’s really a shame that the author of this wonderful joke didn’t sign it, but no doubt his name is entered on the rolls of Great Authors, anyway, for other works, perhaps the anonymous poem, Queene Marsha, which revealed Queen Elizabeth’s identity as a Martian (albeit only to those in the know).

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Entry 1742 — A New Page & More Crowley

Wednesday, March 4th, 2015

Here’s the link to what will become but is not yet The Runaway Spoon Press Homepage.  You can also get to it toward the bottom of the entries to the right under “Pages.”  I hope eventually to have a table of contents from which you can click to any of the authors of works my press has published and read about their Runaway Spoon Press books and see samples of the work in them.  (Thanks to Karl Kempton for the good suggestion to create it.)

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And here I am, finishing my latest “discussion” with Paul Crowley (which, who knows why, I failed to post yesterday although it was ready to post):

PART TWO of Bob Contra Paul
> > Why do almost all those that have encountered it, consider it
> > insane?
>
> They ‘know’ that the poems were written by an
> illiterate, who had illiterate parents and illiterate
> children.

Why does almost everyone with any knowledge of Shakespeare who has encountered this assertion of yours consider it insane?

> > Oh, and why have you presented no valid argument against
> > MY interpretation of Sonnet 18 as a comparison between a
> > summer’s day and the poem’s addressee, which ends with the
> > idea that the poem has made the addressee immortal?
>
> Because it’s not disputable. That’s how it was
> meant to read — especially for people incapable
> of seeing any more.
>
Not so.  My interpretation of the sonnet is that it is a comparison of a summer’s day to the sonnet’s addressee, etc,, AND NOTHING ELSE.  My arguments for the “nothing else” include my subjective opinion that your subjective interpretations of various locution and passages in the sonnet are invalid; that there are no other poems in the English language that do what you say this one does (except, for you, others of Shakespeare’s poems; that your interpretation requires the sonnet’s author to be someone a huge amount of direct evidence says was not its author; that it is my subjective view, which I share with many others, including poets and critics of note, that the sonnet is a superior example of lyric poetry as we interpret it, and would be debased by the kind of sub-text you find conceal in it, but severely disturbing its tone and breaking its unity and tangling its readers up in childishly stupid word-games.

(Note: Paul believes puns and other word-games, once solved, reveal the poem to be addressed to Queen Elizabeth and concern Queen Mary of Scots, and other nobles, during 1566, when its author, the Earl of Oxford, was 16!)

> > Why is it invalid for me to simply assert that all your attempts
> > to invalidate my interpretation are too inept to count as
> > arguments?
>
> Because I have never made any such attempts.

Good.  Now I can say my interpretation completely explicates the poem because no one has proven it wrong, or even produced an argument against it.
>
> > Paul, you have no idea at all of how science, history, literary
> > criticism, the human mind and people work.  You can’t just
> > gather facts and apparent facts and force them into a theory
> > you like, then assert that it is unarguably true because you
> > alone say it is.
>
> Every new statement in science, history, literary
> studies, etc., starts out that way.  It’s up to the likes
> of you to point out where it goes wrong — if you can.

I can’t recall any new statement in science that started out with its author claiming it was true because he alone said it was.  Nor do I know one that was wholly rejected by EVERYONE knowing of it, as your has so far been–unless you can produce someone will to say he accepts your interpretation as valid, or even more valid than any other.

> > What you really have to do is first write a detailed exposition
> > as to you methodology and why it is valid.
>
> I have, and there is nothing special.  Read the
> words and phrases and check them against
> the events in (and during) the life of the poet
> which could have prompted them.

That’s not “nothing special.”  What all competent explicators of poems do is read the text and figure out what they mean, checking a dictionary if necessary, and being on the look-out for figures of speech and literary allusions.  If that doesn’t produce a plausible, unified of what the poem is saying, then one might study the poet’s life to see if there’s anything in it that the poem might relate to.  However, we need know absolutely nothing about the author of Sonnet 18 fully to gain full normal appreciation of it as a poem–although appreciating it as a part of literary history or as an example of the human creative process or as an item out of the life of a known once-living human being or the like ius possible, too.

Your method is close to worthless, and has been classified as such by critics for close to a century as worthless.

> > You should also discuss how others determine authorship and
> > tell us why their methods, most of them greatly different from
> > yours, are flawed.
>
> There is — broadly — no difference.  Everyone
> who studies the Sonnets asks ‘How do they
> relate to the life of the poet?’

No, they don’t.  Most just read them.  Many literary scholars, however, have a NON-LITERARY interest in them because they want to find out about their author.  Your question, for them, comes after the question of what the sonnets are about and their evaluation as being so good that one wants to findout who their author was, if unknown, and anything else about they can.

> Strats come up with absurd crap such as that the line ‘from
> hate away she threw’ puns on ‘Hathaway’. And that’s the sole thing they can get to ‘match’

Actually, it makes a better match than anything you’ve come up with for Oxford.  But Stratfordians, as you seem unwilling to reveal, have found a much better match, the passage, “My name is Will.”

> from the 154 Sonnets!   There could hardly be
> better proof that they have the wrong guy. Marlites don’t do any better, and likewise for
> Baconians and the rest.  Sabrina does not
> try, AFAIR.

I think Sabrina does in her second book, which is mainaly about Sackville.  But DOZENS of people have found all kinds of things in the sonnets that they think reveal the personwho wrote them, and that includes a lot who think Shakespeare wrote them.  Rowse comes to mind.

Here’s Wikipedia on Rowse and the sonnets:

Rowse’s “discoveries” about Shakespeare’s sonnets amount to the following:

The Fair Youth was the 19-year-old Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton, extremely handsome and bisexual.
The sonnets were written 1592–1594/5.
The “rival poet” was the famously homosexual Christopher Marlowe.
The “Dark Lady” was Emilia Lanier. His use of the diaries of Simon Forman, which contained material about her, influenced other scholars.

Christopher Marlowe’s death is recorded in the sonnets.
Shakespeare was a heterosexual man, who was faced with an unusual situation when the handsome, young, bisexual Earl of Southampton fell in love with him.

Rowse was dismissive of those who rejected his views, but he did not make such assertions without supplying reasons. In the case of Shakespeare, he emphasized heterosexual inclinations by noting that Shakespeare had managed to get an older woman pregnant by the time he was 18, and was consequently obliged to marry her. Moreover, he had saddled himself with three children by the time he was 21. In the sonnets, Shakespeare’s explicit erotic interest lies with the Dark Lady; he obsesses about her. Shakespeare was still married and therefore carrying on an extramarital affair.

Frankly, I thought Rowse was a jerk.  Imagine my chagrin when I found out just now that I also believe “Shakespeare was a heterosexual man, who was faced with an unusual situation when the handsome, young, bisexual Earl of Southampton fell in love with him.”  I also lean toward the ascription of Southampton as the fair youth.  Sabrina gives a good argument for that: there is a line in one of the sonnets about how the author has NAMED the fair youth in his writings, and the only person Shakespeare ever named was Southampton, in his dedications to his narrative poems.

> The Oxfordian PT merchants are just as bad —
> generally ‘reading’ each Sonnet and asserting
> that it matches some crazy scheme that (for no
> good reason) they have decided is appropriate. Whittemore decides (for no reason in particular)
> that the poet wrote one Sonnet a week while his
> son (Wriothesley) was in prison, starting at #1
> and ending at #154.  He ‘matches’ them week
> by week.  Alan Tarica (another PT nut) decides
> (for no particular reason) that the Sonnets were
> written in reverse order.  So he starts with #154
> and works backwards to #1. https://sites.google.com/site/eternitypromised/
>
> These schemes (and all others) require that you
> ignore the words of the Sonnet, merely claiming
> that each one says what you vaguely think it
> vaguely ought to say.

So you assert, Paul, but your opponents are as convinced that they are right as you are that you’re right.

> >> So all you have to do is show that (a) Sonnet 18
> >> could _just_as_well_ have been written for the
> >> Battle of Hastings, or the Siege of Troy — or any
> >> historical episode that you care to select  OR
> >> (b) finding some other sonnet or poem that could
> >> _just_as_well_ fit the events at the court of Mary
> >> Queen of Scots around February and March 1566.
> >
> > It exactly fits both the battle of Hastings, and the Australians
> > conquering of Atlantis in 9,456 B.C. because “so long” is
> > used twice in it, and salami was the chief food of both the
> > Australians and the Chinese who fought in the Battle of
> > Hastings.
>
> Yeah. yeah.  Deep criticism.

You can’t refute it.

> >> IF my reading is false, either of those courses would
> >> be easy.  Look at some really bad readings of the
> >> Sonnets — such as from Hank Whittemore or from
> >> Jim F. in this newsgrouip or from any Strat perfesser.
> >> Anyone could readily take one of their ‘interpretations’
> >> of a particular poem and show that it is so shallow
> >> that it could apply to almost any text or any occasion
> >> OR (b) when they do get into some kind of detail,
> >> showing that it bears little relation to either the
> >> words of the text or the facts of history, or both.
> >
> > Your confidence in your interpretation is entirely subjective.
>
> No.  Part of it comes from the purely rhetorical
> nature of the ‘objections’ that I get from you and
> others.

Sure.  Nothing we say is of any substance,  How do you know?  Because you have examined what we’ve said and found it to have no substance.  That doesn’t work in real scholarly pursuits, Paul.

> > To assert it is right will not make it right for anyone but you.
>
> It’s your total inability to present sensible arguments
> against it that is so convincing.

Ah, “my TOTAL inability.”  Odd that I’ve never met anyone who was totally unable to present ANY sensible arguments against my views.  How can you believe your argument to be so exquisitely perfect that no one can present a sensible argument against it.  But a sane person would know, for instance, that the fact that in more than one sonnet their author calls his addressee “a boy” is a sensible argument that the addressee is a boy.  An assertion that the author is joking, if accepted, would defeat the argument, but NOT make it not sensible.  To get the assertion accepted, though, evidence for it would be useful, and you have none.  Only your recognition that your delusional system would fall apart if if were false.

> >>> Showing it impossible would be impossible.
> >>

I suspect that I took the word, “impossible,” from you.”

> >> Your rigidnikry again. In effect, ‘highly unlikely’ in
> >> this context means ‘impossible’.  For example,
> >> there is no reasonable likelihood that Mamillius
> >> (in Winter’s Tale) represents Raleigh (which is
> >> what you or someone said was Richard Malim’s
> >> claim) — for the reasons I gave yesterday.
> >> Mamillius was royal and immediate heir to the
> >> throne. Raleigh was a low-born cad — in the view
> >> of every courtier of Elizabeth, especially in that
> >> of the 17th Earl of Oxford.

Here again you put one of your main flaws as a thinker on view, Paul: you fail to recognize how various people are.  It is quite likely that Raleigh, who made quite a name for himself, and was an important member of an intellectual group Marlowe and Spenser were part of, so he must have had SOME friends.  He may even at times been Oxford’s friend.  He was Elizabeth’s at times.  And Oxford could have only pretended to like him during a time when Raleigh’s star was ascending.  Friendships can change from day-to-day.  You weren’t there.

Note: he has a much higher reputation today than Oxford among non-Oxfordians.  In fact, your denigration of him is ridiculous.

> [..]  (Paul’s snip)

> > First of all, Paul, you are arguing that a fictional character
> > represents someone else.  You have to show why the
> > character is not entirely fictional.  You don’t.
>
> Of course I do.   Hamlet’s mini-play “The Mousetrap”
> was supposedly fictional.  But we all know — as King
> Claudius also sees — that it wasn’t  Many in that court
> could have shown it wasn’t ‘entirely fictional’ by
> pointing out the parallels between King Claudius and
> the actions depicted in the mini-play/.  They were too
> many and too close to have been there by chance.

Very direct parallels but the only direct evidence we have that the play was supposed to be about a real event is that Hamlet tells us it is.  Who tells us Hamlet is really about Oxford?  As for the parallels, there are many parallels between Hamlet and the life-stories of other besides Oxford, including King James, and there are many differences between Hamlet and each of them, which you ignore.

There is also NO document indicating that anyone took any of Shakespeare’s plays to be about the real court of the time.

Aside from that, the convincing parallels are between Hamlet and  its source.

> Likewise for Sonnet 18, or for Viola being Raleigh,
> or for Elizabeth being ‘the Phoenix’ and Oxford ‘her
> Turtle’ or for the numerous other parallels.  You
> dodge every challenge to deny them — resorting to
> rhetoric and other crap ‘arguments’.

You have no direct evidence of any of that.  I can’t remember my arguments against Raleigh as a girl, but I’ve repeated a few of my Sonnet 18 arguments, and they are not “rhetoric” or crap arguments, unless I agree to let you be sole judge of the matter, which makes the debate irrelevant.  You need just publish your findings, and in a preface tell the reader that you’ve examined everything you’ve said in your book and found it to be correct, so they have no reason to doubt any of it.  Just to make sure they accept your findings, add that no one has ever refuted any of them or even present a sensible argument against them.

I believe it was Copernicus’s failure to do this that kept his ideas from being universally accepted for so long.  It makes science and related disciplines So much easier.

> >>> Why should we have more works in his name?
> >>
> >> Good authors are not common.  When someone
> >> demonstrates good writing skills, we’d expect to
> >> see them employed.
> >
> > You’re missing my point: I’m assuming that if Sackville was the
> > True Author, we’d only have work from him in his front’s name,
> > not from him, as because the case, you claim, for Oxford.
>
> In practice, the most difficult part of any anti-
> Stratfordian case is to demonstrate the WHY
> and the HOW such ‘an extensive’ cover-up was
> mounted.  Many Oxfordians fail in the respect
> (as a result of  adopting far too many Stratfordian
> assumptions) and, in  desperation, they fall back
> on PT crapology.  Most non-Oxfordians don’t even
> bother to try — since they know they have no case.
> For example, Sabrina dodges every question
> about HOW and WHY.  With the monarch and her
> successor providing the backing, it’s very easy to
> see how it worked.  Without the monarch, and
> her successor, it’s near-impossible.  But Marlites,
> Baconians, Sabrina and PT theorists rarely allow
> for the interests of the monarchy and its presence
> in the cover-up.

Don’t you realize that you asked why we have no late works from Sackville as we should have if he were a great author, and I told you why–we did, but they were in his front’s name.  You couldn’t let yourself admit that you had lost that argument, so jumped into a different argument against Sackville.

Sabrina’s answer makes sense to me: it is that Sackville did not want to his authorship known.  So it didn’t become known.  The court had nothing to do with it.

We have no strong reason not to accept that Sackville was simply odd.  You simply can’t understand that anyone might behave differently from the single way you think he would.  But how about a great author who suddenly becomes so bored with what he’s been doing, or becomes depressed due to an endocrinological problem related to old age, and stops thinking his life’s work has any value.  Did you know that Groucho Marx as an old man once view one of the greatest of the Marx Brothers films and said he could figure out why anyone thought it was funny?

Anyway, the beauty of Sackville’s not caring about posterity is that it greatly simplifies the Great Hoax.  Just a few people knew The Truth while Sackville was alive, and within a decade or two of his death no one any longer did.  And there would have been no need to leave fatuously silly “clues” for posterity.  Just about everything could be taken as above board.

> If Sabrina provides no indication of the HOW
> and the WHY, then there is no point in bothering
> with her theory.  It’s not got off the ground.

Her WHY is the standard “stigma of print” for noble authors.  She argues it better than other anti-Stratfordians have, it seems to me.  You should buy her book and study it.  I’d be surprised if there were nothing in it you could use.

Her HOW is far more elegant than yours: Sackville simply wanted to write plays for the public theatre and did so anonymously until he met Shakespeare, a second-rate playwright who had priated a play of Sackville’s and rewritten it as his.  Sackville saw how well he could conceal his identity if he let the Stratford hack continue taking credit for his plays.  Sabrina allows just a few others to be in on the secret, including Jonson.

I think it would be very difficult for you to find anything wrong with it except the flaws I find as a Stratfordian in it which you could not accept because they work as well against Oxford as against Sackville.  For instance, the stigma of print.  You can’t refute it for Sackville without refuting it for Oxford.  And the absence of direct evidence works the same way against all anti-Stratfordian candidates, so can’t be used.  Etc.

I do know you think Oxford had to conceal himself because of how damaging his plays would be taken to be if known to be by a noble, expecially one as high up as Oxford.  I don’t think Sabrina uses this argument for her man, but she could.

Whew, I got through your whole post.
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Entry 1741 — Arguing Against a Crank, Again

Tuesday, March 3rd, 2015

Today I felt too tired (although I’d had a decent night’s sleep, for me–over six hours), to do anything after just a little over an hour of tennis (doubles, which isn’t that demanding), and–earlier–my set of exercises which now take me about a half-hour, and a run of about a mile and two-thirds, very slowly.  After lunch, though, I came into my computer room to at least post something here.  As a warm-up, I got involved in the SAQ (Shakespeare Authorship Question), which is probably my most insane hobby, especially when it involved my Primary Opponent, Paul Crowley, as it often does, and did this time.

As I was bouncing along giving as good as I got (I think) I began wondering what I was getting out of my interaction with Paul.  Hey, I thought, I spend so much time getting nowhere with Paul in order to find out why I spend so much time getting nowhere with Paul.

I’m sort of serious here.  One thing I’m trying to do is work out a definitive analysis of crankery–and, it looks like–of counter-crankery, which is close to as insane.  Another thought: that by studying a crank theory one gets a better idea of what I’d call a validiplex or sane understanding of some significant field, or significant portion of a field.

It’s a genuine sport for me, too–a chance to exercise my brain, with very little of importance in the balance.  Finally, when I’m in a day that’s clearly going nowhere, I can shove what I’ve said to Paul into a blog entry like this one, hoping others may find it amusing, and at times interesting (because I sez profundities all the time, even to Paul!)

My ado out of the way, here’s the latest episode of the Bob ‘n’ Paul show:

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 8:21:04 AM UTC-5, Paul Crowley wrote:
> >> That’s just not the way they were thinking.  They
> >> (entirely justifiably) believed that as soon as anyone
> >> looked properly at Stratford and it environs, and at
> >> the nature of the Stratman, and his background,
> >> those investigators would forget any possibility that
> >> he could have written a poem, let alone any of the
> >> great works.
> >
BOB:They were extremely mistaken, which suggests they were not
> > very intelligent, after all.
>
PAUL: It’s very easy to underestimate stupidity, and
> very hard to predict the future.  Also they did not
> grasp the extent to which ignorant uneducated
> low-class people (editor’s note: Paul does not
> consider himself any kind of snob) delighted in the idea that a
> great writer could emerge from their own ranks.

BOB: Many educated and even upper-class people went along with it.  Aside from that, there are many ways of arranging things so as to pretty much insure that the Truth would be revealed in much less time that it has taken–for instance.

You simply assume that a perfect hoax was easy except for making sure Oxford got proper credit within a reasonable time, which was impossible, and impossible even for the geniuses carrying out the hoax to realize.  Because you say so.  You have no direct documentary evidence of such a hoax whatsoever.

> >> My statement that “Sonnet 18 was written in
> >> London in (or close to) April 1566″ is a very simple
> >> factual one.  IF it was false (and if the supporting
> >> arguments were erroneous) then it would be very
> >> easy to demonstrate the falsity.

BOB: It is false for probably at least a hundred reasons, but impossible for you to accept any of these reasons as even arguments.  For instance, Shakespeare’s name, not Oxford’s, is on Sonnet 18, but that’s not an argument against your theory because the name was a lie–according to you, although there’s no direct evidence that you are right.  Oxford, who you say wrote Sonnet 18, was only 16 at the time, although the sonnet can be shown to have been (1) far superior to any poem Oxford was known to have written; (2) far superior to any poem known to have been written by a 16-year-old; and (3) equal to the best of the works of its author when he was surely a much older man, as well as far better than other works of its author when he was surely older.

There is also the literary history of the period concerning how the poets of the time influenced each other, which would have to be scrapped if Oxford wrote Sonnet 18 in 1566. This literary history is subjective, but based on a huge number of facts about the times, and about the way creative poets work.  You merely assert that those who have contributed to this history are incompetents.

It occurs to me to ask you why they are incompetents–besides the fact that they refuse to accept Oxford as Shakespeare.  Granted, from your point of view, that is an insane mistake, although there is no direct evidence that ought to make a competent scholar accept that Oxford was Shakespeare.  But what else?  Did they get the English victory over Spain right?  Were they right about Francis Drake?  Were they right that Spenser wrote the Faery Queene?  Possibly not.  It seems to me, as a dabble in your thinking, that you consider them COMPETENT wherever their reasoning matches yours.  So you probably consider their thinking about Jonson correct, except regarding Jonson’s Shakespeare-related writings.

My problem is that the more I think about your scenario, the more incredibly complex it becomes–without leaving any direct evidence that things were as you say.  Take Lyly, for example–credited with important novels and plays influencing Shakespeare, but for you a front man for Oxford–or was he just a mediocre writer that Oxford helped?  Greene was fictitious, although many other writers wrote about him.  Marlowe probably fictitious.  The whole literary history of the times was, according to your scenario, much less like the experts in the period say it was than the Christian fundamentalists idea of biology is like Darwin’s.

You really should carefully write up your history of England from 1530 or so until 1630.  Why won’t you?  You shouldn’t want someone like me to give my version of it.  And you have no followers who would do it for you. The HLAS archives might be lost–and even if not, the material there by you would be hard to organize.

PAUL explains his method of determining what a poem means:
> >> The question is something like “Does this piece of
> >> this jigsaw fit this gap?” — when it’s a complicated
> >> shape, with many patterns on the piece in question
> >> and in that part of the picture of the jigsaw.  You can
> >> disprove the matching by (a) showing that such a
> >> piece could readily go elsewhere, OR
> >> (b) showing that there were many other pieces that
> >> would fit the gap as well.
> >
BOB: If this is so, why do no other attribution scholars use your
> > procedure in determining authorship?
>
PAUL:  There is nothing exceptional in what I do. If you
> come across an unsigned letter, you identify
> who wrote it by linking some person to the acts
> and circumstances mentioned.

BOB:  Shakespeare’s works were signed.
>
PAUL: Whereas most  ‘attribution scholars’ are looking at
> works they see as completely non-autobiographical

BOB: How can you keep saying that, Paul?  What you MUST say as a sane literary investigator is that “most ‘attribution scholars’ are looking at works they see as NOT SUFFICIENTLY autobiographical TO BE MUCH HELP IN IDENTIFYING THEIR AUTHOR.”  Actually, however, attribution scholars are making no effort to identify the author of Shakespeare’s works.  You’re speaking of what might be called ‘attribution-defenders.’  As one of them, I say that (1) the hard evidence for Shakespeare, a man known to have lived at the right time in the right place to have written the Shakespearean Oeuvre, is sufficient for him to be taken as their author insomuch as there is no direct evidence against him, so we need not bother trying to relate his life to his works; (2) we know too little about his life to relate it in any kind of detail to his works; (3) his works, except the sonnets, are clearly not based on their author’s life–e.g., he didn’t become bewitched in an Athenian forest by a faery named Puck.

PAUL: and they are trying to pick up clues from style and
> word-usage.  They would be only a small part
> of my interest.

BOB: It’s the only part that is in any way scientific, and–however flawed now–will almost surely settle the matter eventually.  (Paul elsewhere had claimed that literary history is just as scientific as anything else, including physics.  Hence, if his theory was wrong, I should be able easily to scientifically dismantle it, which–needless to say–I can’t.)

BOB: Why do no historians use your methods in determining what
> > happened at various points in history?
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PAUL: Of course they do. They study the documents of the
> day, and glean what they can about the interests
> and motivations of the people involved. So they
> often change their minds on people like Richard III,
> or Thomas Cromwell and Thomas Moore.

BOB: Do they decide certain prominent figures were fictitious, or as good as fictitious the way you believe Shakespeare (the owner of New Place, according to the deed to that property), was?  How much of what they say can they claim is objectively true the way in chemistry its true that a base plus an acid will yield (in normal conditions) a salt and water?
>
> > BOB: Why does no one agree that your interpretation of the sonnets is correct?
>
>PAUL: Like you, they have not put in the work.

BOB: How is that a good dodge considering that you can re-use it indefinitely?  (I am sure, by the way, that I’ve put more work into Sonnet 18 than you have.  I am also sure that many who have written complete books on the sonnets, which you have not, have done at least as much work on them as you.  They just don’t realize that all who have preceded them in their field have been incredibly wrong about who, when and where the sonnets were written and what they really mean–have, in short, taken them to be poems like all poems except for their details, and not the new kind of literature you think Oxford invented, the mixture of confession/personal philosophy/autobiography/journalism/gossip/who-knows-what disguised as world class lyrical poetry and verse plays.

HERE I decided to stop, although possibly more than halfway through Paul’s post.
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Entry 1601 — The Genius of Crowley, Part 2

Wednesday, October 15th, 2014

I claim that I don’t post so much at HLAS and elsewhere about Paul Crowley, even giving him a chapter in my book on the authorship question, to sadistically mock him, although I would never claim not to do that.  My main use of him, however, is as an incredible example of what I term “rigidnikry.”  In fact, I find him so incredible as being uncertain whether he is a real person, or some ingenious fictitious character made up as a caricature of the typical Oxfordian.  He has provided little data that would allow anyone to validate his existence.  I tend mostly to believe him real, but using a pseudonym.

Here from the other day is a post of his about the Latin inscription on Shakespeare’s monument that the sane have no trouble with but the wacks invariably consider a difficult problem in decoding:

judgement of piles, genius of 50crates, art of a marrow

Geddit?

IVDICIO PYLIUM, GENIO SOCRATEM, ARTE MARONEM,

TERRA TEGIT, POPULUS MÆRET, OLYMPUS HABET

An answer to the ‘Socrates’ problem.

The hidden meaning is “50 crates”.

This has been a joke among educated English classes
(such as Oxbridge students) since time immemorial.

The script as carved shows ‘Socrates’ in the usual form.
The ‘S’ is the same as that shown elsewhere in the
inscription.  Clearly the sculptor was not told of the
double meaning, or was told to ignore it.

Shame really, I’m sure no one who took the Stratford
story at face value would have noticed a ‘5’ in its place.

Paul

They aren’t content to claim that Jonson, whom many believe wrote it, simply wrote a lying epigraph that would fit the fake Shakespeare, they have to show he did that and hid The Truth inside it.  Everything by or about Shakespeare is an attempt to hide his true identity and an attempt to reveal it, or at least indicate that he was not Shakespeare.  They are thus what I call schizspiracy theorists.

Unable to resist such a gift to reply to, I wrote:

We already know from your superb work in the field, Paul, that no one in Stratford would even have looked at the inscription: it was hard to see, and they were all illiterate, anyway.  (Paul actually believes the monument was placed where no one would be able to see it well enough to read, no one would be xurious to know what it said, and only one or two able to read Latin.)  It’s really a shame that the author of this wonderful joke didn’t sign it, but no doubt his name is entered on the rolls of Great Authors, anyway, for other works, perhaps the anonymous poem, Queene Marsha, which revealed Queen Elizabeth’s identity as a Martian (albeit only to those in the know).

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Entry 1600 — Paul Crowley

Tuesday, October 14th, 2014

First, the latest elderly codger medical report: my surgical procedure went okay but for a while after I got home, I was worried it had been seriously botched, for my urine at first came out bright red, and my take-home patient’s instruction sheet said if that were the case, I should call my physician; by then it was early in the evening when the doctor would probably be finished for the day, so I didn’t want to disturb him, or find out I was in bad trouble. Soon my bladder’s output became a trickle. By the time I went to bed–early, around 8:30, my flow was exactly the way it was before the procedure, a drip or two at a time, at best. But I’d gone three or four days before the procedure with periods of six hours or more when I was unable to urinate, so I decided to wait till the morning before bothering my doctor about it.

When morning came, I began fasting, thinking I’d probably have to undergo some kind of surgery soon. Up at six, I was going to wait until a little after eight, then ride to my doctor’s, stopping on the way to visit my tennis chums at the courts where we play on Tuesdays. Blessedly, my urine began flowing again a little before eight–and it was not red! I visited my friends, anyway, for I had to get two prescriptions filled, one or both or which were to help with my flow. I should have picked them up on the way home from my procedure, but forgot I had them instantly. If I’d taken them, I might have had a much better night. I think I was still too much under the influence of the anaesthesia.

I’m hoping that the anaesthesia is still affecting me, because my legs have felt very weak since I got back from seeing my friends and getting my prescriptions filled. The anaesthesia coupled with my hip condition, which remains the same (and was very painful last night in bed). I’m going to the monthly get-together of the little writers’ group I belong to in a little over an hour from now despite my weakness. I hope I make it there and back.

Now for some material featuring Paul Crowley, erstwhile fantasizer that the 17th Earl of Oxford wrote the works of Shakespeare whom I think may have the most fascinating mind I’ve ever encountered. First, what may be the most idiotic reason for evading a challenge to a viewpoint I’ve ever seen.  First, a little background.  Paul has long been asking those of us believing Shakespeare was Shakespeare to name “in the whole of Early Modern Europe — another   noble, wealthy, never-married woman, who controlled her own household, and who could decide who she would marry”–like the Olivia of Twelfth Night.  Paul believes Olivia to have been a portrait of Queen Elizabeth so detailedly accurate that only someone who was an intimate of the queen, as Paul believes Oxford was (and who may have been), could have created her, hence being stronger evidence for Oxford’s having been Shakespeare than Shakespeare’s name on 45 title-pages during his lifetime, monument and first folio are for him are that he was Shakespeare.

Several of us at HLAS gave what I consider strong arguments: that Olivia had little or nothing in common with the queen, that Shakespeare had invented her (authorship wacks find it impossible to believe an author could create an interesting character rather than copy one out of real life, the creative imagination being something beyond them), that there were discrepancies in Paul’s comparison of Olivia to the queen and of Olivia’s court to the queen’s court, and much else. Paul dismissed our efforts as not only not arguments, but not even attempts at arguments against his theory.

That was long ago.  Since then, Paul has every once in a while proclaimed his insane belief that no one has presented an argument against any of his arguments for Oxford.  He did so again a few days ago at HLAS.  His contention was contested, once by me.  I said, “One need not refute every point made in an argument to refute the argument, Paul.”
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Here I was considering his challenge–and the fact that, no one did answer (no one, I told him, has time to research such a question, particularly to refute a single point of a delusional system as insane as Oxfordianism, or would be likely to find anyone Paul would accept as like Olivia–although I now remember there were a few names advanced an argument.
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“But,” I went on, “I’ll be glad to answer your insane question about Queen Elizabeth (as Olivia) when you have answered one I’ve asked you more than once: who can you cite who agrees with you that no one has offered a serious rebuttal to any argument about the authorship question of yours?”

Here’s his reply: “It’s an absurd request.  You don’t ask people their opinions on straightforward matters of fact.  How many people think the fence on your property is white?  Or that your dog is black?  Are you going to conduct polls to decide?  Or to argue a case one way or the other?”

This seems so goofy to me, I can’t think how to reply to it.  But I do believe I could if it were worth replying to.  It would take my as long as it sometimes takes me to get something in my theory of psychology right, though.

And now for what was intended to be my main text here today: my latest post to HLAS (humanities.literature.authors.Shakespeare), at Google groups:

Paul, wouldn’t you agree that *aside from your belief in the validity of the case for Oxford*, you PREFER that narrative featuring Oxford as Shakespeare to the one featuring the poorly-educated smalltown commoner as Shakespeare?  I believe you are almost forced to believe in Oxford because of your need for an authorship narrative that satisfies you, but I’m willing to concede that perhaps you don’t NEED it, but I can’t believe it isn’t one of your secondary motives (and we all have secondary, not necessarily rational, reasons for our beliefs), not for your belief in your theory, but for arguing so vigorously for it.

I don’t see why it would be hard for you to admit to simply liking the Oxford story better than the Shakespeare story.  I do see why you wouldn’t want anyone to think anything other than a clear-headed desire for the Truth was responsible for your belief in Oxford.  As for me, I’m more than willing to reveal (as I have more than once in the past) that I very much WANT Shakespeare to be the True Author.  Of course, I don’t believe my acceptance of him (in spite of my natural tendency to prefer to go against Established Views, or my rather scorning Shakespeare’s conventional outlook on life–compared to Marlowe’s, for instance–and his businessman’s later years so much resembling those of Wallace Stevens, one of my alltime favorite poets) . . .

I think my sentence went on too long, so will return to its beginning and try to get through it unparenthesizingly: As for me, I’m more than will to reveal how important it is to me that Shakespeare continue his reign as the True Author, although I believe that if the facts refuted the Shakespeare narrative, I’d drop it.

It just occurred to me that if what happened back then was that Oxford wrote the works now attributed to Shakespeare AND PUT HIS NAME ON THEM, and Shakespeare only appeared in the records as an actor, I would have no trouble accepting it–as I now accept the narratives featuring Byron, Bacon and a number of others as important cultural figures.  I tend to think there are no cultural figures who had lives like the Shakespeare of my narrative whom you truly admire.  Indeed, you seem not able to admire ANY literary figure anywhere near as much as you admire your Shakespeare.  Dickens, Keats, Shaw, even Mark Twain, I suspect, are for you, at best, secondary writers.  Odd that there are so many non-noble writers at their level, and so few noble writers.

Well, I can’t leave this post with babbling a little more about what too often is my favorite subject, myself (interestingly, you are not like me in this respect, at all, rarely saying much about yourself).  So I will reveal–again, not for the first time–that I also like Shakespeare’s having shared with me a bald head, although I’d have preferred that neither of us had one.  Sadly, in these enlightened times, I am also glad we both have protestant English roots and are male.  I don’t like the possibility that we may not share our sexual tastes but tend to believe Shakespeare was, like me, hetero- not bi-sexual).

If your Oxford were the True Author, I’d find him hard to like very much.  He didn’t have what I think of as a very admirable like, and I would be contemptuous of his need to conceal his authorship.  That’s because, for one thing, I would want him to be clever enough to get away with revealing it without sinking the state or ruining the reputation of his family; I would also want him to be too independent of mind to conceal himself due to the influence of his inferiors.  As I’ve already said, I’d put up with his flaws, though, just as I put up with those of another literary hero of mine, Ezra Pound.  And as I put up with the socialistic crap of Shaw.  And the homosexuality and weakness of character of Wilde, another important idol of mine although I’m not sure where he ranks on my list of favorites.

There, I’m done.  Isn’t HLAS blessed to have me back?!

Yeah, I got carried away.  I still think I said a few interesting things, though.

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Entry 1697 — SAQ Wack-Classification, Cont.

Monday, January 19th, 2015

As I was saying:

The fallaciplex a rigidnik crank is victimized by is a rigidniplex.  Almost all of a rigidnik’s knowleplexes in his magniscipience (where he is involved with questions outside the everyday like the SAQ) are rigidniplexes due to his innately excessively high basal cerebral energy (while in or mostly in his magniscipience and defective accommodance (i.e., ability to lower the level of his cerebral energy, which is the basis of creativity, among other things).  Nonetheless, some of his rigidniplexes are valid: Newton’s understanding of physics may have been rigidnikal, for instance.  (I have this suspicion that all the best theoretical mathematicians and physicists are rigidniks.)  The SAQ one is not, as I will later demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt.

That is a memory-complex that comes to over-ride any new information contradicting the understanding it generates.  Call it a fixation, or a permanent outlook.  The result is extreme inner-directedness based not on the interaction of continuing data but on what data was around at the birth of the rigidniplex.

Hence, if Shakespeare becomes important in his life, he must form a Shakespeare rigidniplex.  For reasons I’ll soon get into, this will become a delusional system based on some kind of insane conspiracy theory that someone other than Will Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works attributed to Will.

Soundbite definition of a rigidniplex: a mental structure that results in an understanding of some relatively large subject (that is much more often invalid than valid) that one possessing it can’t change his mind about.

The second kind of authorship wack, the milyoop, is a kind of pseudo-rigidnik.  His fallaciplex is named after him, too: the milyooplex.  It is the opposite of a rigidniplex, for milyoops suffer from a too low level of basal cerebral energy.  This causes them to form knowleplexes they are too weak of mind to defend.

The sanest kind of wack is the eurekan.  Usually he is the third type of the three my theory of temperaments hypothesizes, the freewender, but he can also be a strong milyoop or weak rigidnik (in real life, just about everyone is a mixture of the three types).  He will have a healthy mentality, perhaps even a superior mentality, but been done in by a Eureka moment.  A Eurekan moment can occur in almost any intelligent, creative person’s life.  What happens is he meets an apparent problem without the background knowledge properly to deal with it, then finds a brilliant solution—which is incomplete but which excites him too much for him to notice that.

His cerebral energy is not naturally too high, but can be driven high by the pleasure of suddenly finding an apparent solution to a difficult problem.  In the case of the eurekan, his burst of energy will allow him to build a fairly strong knowleplex, or understanding of the problem he believes he has solved.  Moreover, if society considers the subject his solution deals with, and Shakespeare is one of the largest cultural subjects there is for most people in the West with any culture at all, he will be filled with energizing anticipation of fame and fortune.

From then on, he will work on it, each time with the energy of a rigidnik because of the pleasure his brilliant solution is giving him.  As a result, he will make the knowleplex he began with into an artificial rigidniplex every bit as immune to reason as a natural rigidniplex.
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Entry 1696 — Some New Coinages

Sunday, January 18th, 2015

I’m hoping to do Important Work elsewhere today, so this entry will be short (unless I get inspired).  Currently one of the essays I’m working on concerns the kinds of people who become Shakespeare cranks–i.e., people who are pretty much permanently certain that someone other than the rube from Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works of Shakespeare.  So far there are three major kinds of Shakespeare cranks on my list: the rigidnikal, milyoopian and eurekan cranks. According to my wholly uncertified “knowlecular” theory of psychology, each of these cranks is the victim of a closely related but not quite identical group of inter-connected brain-cells in his cerebrum called a fallaciplex (fuh LAY shih plehks).

A fallaciplex is one of the brain’s two kinds of “knowleplexes,” or sets of brain-cell’s involved with a person’s understanding of some fairly large portion of reality (astronomy, say, rather than the moon as simply a bright object in the sky).  If the understanding of a given knowleplex is obviously wrong (i.e., demonstrated to be invalid by rigorous logic applied to nothing by the known relevant facts of the subject of the knowleplex under analysis–in the view of an overwhelming majority of people with knowledge of the subject involved), it is a fallaciplex.  The opposite of this is the validiplex.  This, as should be obvious, is a knowleplex that logic and all the facts have shown–for an overwhelming majority of those with relevant knowledge–to be valid beyond reasonable doubt.  All other knowleplexes can be considered validiplexes-in-progress until are shown to be maxilutely (i.e. as close to absolute certainty as any understanding can come) valid or invalid.

The crank’s fallaciplex is activated whenever he encounters the Shakespeare Authorship Question (SAQ (more than briefly).  It then fills his mind with a delusional system concerning the SAQ that he is almost completely unable to free himself from–although he’s unlikely to want to.

The fallaciplex a rigidnikal crank is victimized by is a rigidniplex.  Almost all of a rigidnik’s knowlexplexes in his magniscipience (where his involvement with questions outside the everyday like the SAQ) rigidniplexes due to his innately excessively high basal cerebral energy (while in or mostly in his magniscipience and defective accommodance (i.e., ability to lower the level of his cerebral energy, which is the basis of creativity, among other things).  Nonetheless, some of his rigidniplexes are valid: Newton’s understanding of physics may have been rigidnikal, for instance.  (I have this suspicion that all the best theoretical mathematicians and physicists are rigidniks.)  The SAQ one is not, as I will later demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt.

Soundbite definition of a rigidniplex: a mental structure that results in an understanding of some relatively large subject (that is much more often invalid than valid) that one possessing it can’t change his mind about.

The fallaciplex a milyoopan crank is victimized by is  the opposite of a rigidniplex, for milyoops, as I classify those who tend to form milyooplexes, suffer from a too low level of cerebral energy.  This causes them to form knowleplexes they are too weak of mind to defend.

To be continued tomorrow, I hope.  Right now, I suddenly need a nap–or a shot of cocaine, and I don’t know where to get any.

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Entry 1686 — Some Thoughts on ?enius

Friday, January 9th, 2015

None of my three or four faithful readers will be surprised that I have a rather large need to believe I am a genius–a genuine one, not an IQ or MacArthur genius.  The only thing perhaps unusual, for a serious, meta-professional artist or verosopher like me, is that I admit my need.  By “meta-professional artist or verosopher,” I mean someone whose main reason for his activities as either is to produce something of significant cultural value.  Unlike Samuel Johnson, at least if we go by his famous saying about only fools writing for anything but money.  Sam is one of my cultural heroes however much I disagree with him about possibly more things than I agree with him about.  Of course, one reason for that is that money is much less meaningful in our incredibly affluent country than it was in his.  True poverty was hard for a great many people to avoid in his, near-impossible to suffer in ours.

I think false modesty is so battered into people like me that, for most of us, it is no longer false.  There is also the (innate) need to fit in in spite of being different.  Like many ?eniuses, I do downplay my aptitudes (like the one that made schoolwork mostly easy for me).  I also somewhat exaggerate my many ineptitudes such as the way it grab hold of conclusions prematurely, or my slowness to understand (which, most of the time, I contend, is a virtue due to realizing how much more there is to be understood than most others).  What helps me most is that I’m actually pretty normal in most respects, and that’s genuine.  I tend to think of myself as a television that has one channel no other television has that picks up telecasts from some weird planet in another galaxy . .  but only once or twice a year.  (Other ?eniuses are the same kind of television, each of which picks up telecasts from a different weird planet.)

I’ve now used my newest coinage, “?enius,” enough to indicate it’s not a typo.  That’s because, as is the case, I suspect, with many blessed/cursed with the kind of brain I have, I have enough self-confidence to be sure I’m either a genius or not far off from being one, but not to declare myself one.  In fact, I truly don’t know whether I am one or not.  What I am, therefore, is a ?enius.

I would not be surprised if even the most ratified culturateur–Murray Gell-Mann, for instance–

Hey, I just did a quick search of the Internet for Murray to check for about the twentieth time whether or not he spelled his last name with a hyphen and found an entry at this Roman Catholic Blog that is one of the best blog entries I’ve ever come across–in spite of its having been written by someone who considers those not accepting the existence of God as a given to be intellectually vacuous, and their arguments on par with those of holocaust-deniers (which, he implies, are wholly worthless although some I’ve found to be pretty good, just not good enough to unconvince me that it is beyond reasonable doubt that a great many Jews were deliberately killed by the Nazis[1]).

Back to what I was saying: I would not be surprised if even Nobelist Murray Gell-Mann sometimes fears he’s not very smart, after all.  Maybe not.  More likely he is like Newton feeling like a small boy at the beach finding interesting pebbles or shells . . . but still aware at some level that only he was noticing them.

The situation is different for ?eniuses like me who, even in old age, are near-completely unrecognized.  One would have to be close to insane to be sure the whole world, just about, was wrong about you.  Nonetheless, I keep thinking and writing about genius and related topics, my own underlying aim always being, to some degree or other, to find a way to get around the evidence against me.

Not today, unless in just having revealed my invention (so far as I know) of the world’s first English word for day-to-day use that includes a typographical mark as one of its letters (Cummings and others have made words like it, but not for use outside the poems they are in) is my subtle argument for my being a genius.  I guess I am never not trying to prove  I’m a genius whenever I create a serious work of art or write a serious text.  In this entry I’m mainly considering what someone you might reasonably characterize as “brilliant” of “gifted,” but not accept as a genius.

My latest thought is minor but taxonomically valuable: it is that a genuine genius has two characteristics: the temperament of a genius and the mentality of a genius.  This thought occurred to me when (as so often) thinking about myself–in particular about what I could claim for myself as one striving to achieve genius.  I feel certain that I do have the temperament of a genius; what is unknown is if I also have the mentality of a genius.

All I can say about the latter is it’s very much higher than even a superior human mentality, and that it’s far more than ability to score high on IQ tests or get high grades in school.  I lean toward believing it is probably high-superiority in only one kind of art or verosophy, maybe two, not some kind of all-around superiority.  In any case, I don’t feel capable of pinning it down objectively.

I do feel the temperament of a genius can be objectively defined.  I contend it consists of some high proportion of the following characteristics, each overt and easy to identify:

1. Gross tendency to emotional ups and downs, sometimes psychotically extreme as with Theodore Roethke.  (Note: most of the characteristics on this list have been pointed out by many others, and I doubt it any is original.  While in this parenthesis, let me add that this is my first list so with surely be incomplete, perhaps severely so.)

2. A need for Great Achievements–like Keats’s declared hope of being among the English poets when he died.

3. A disregard for the opinions of others–i.e., non-conformity.

4. Reasonably high output as an artist and/or verosopher–due to determination and persistance.  (Needless to say, I’m assuming in advance that I have the temperament of a genius, so basically listing my own characteristics–but I’ll leave out bald-headedness.  And unbelievable potent wittiness.)

5. Extreme self-reliance–a variation on #3 because it importantly includes going one’s own way regardless of what others say.

Yikes, I see I don’t need to make a list–the National Enquirer beat me to it by some 35 years:

    1. DRIVE. Geniuses have a strong desire to work hard and long. They’re willing to give all they’ve got to a project. Develop your drive by focusing on your future success, and keep going.  Sure: my #4 is the necessary result and provides objective evidence of this.
    2. COURAGE. It takes courage to do things others consider impossible. Stop worrying about what people will think if you’re different.  See my #5.
    3. DEVOTION TO GOALS. Geniuses know what they want and go after it. Get control of your life and schedule. Have something specific to accomplish each day.  Only sometimes true.  My #4 again will be the result for someone with the temperament of genius.
    4. KNOWLEDGE. Geniuses continually accumulate information. Never go to sleep at night without having learned at least one new thing each day. Read. And question people who know.  Everybody continually accumulates knowledge.  A ?enius becomes a genius in part by applying what he accumulates better than others due to his genius mentality.
    5. HONESTY. Geniuses are frank, forthright and honest. Take the responsibility for things that go wrong. Be willing to admit, ‘I goofed’, and learn from your mistakes.  That’s me, but I have no idea whether other ?eniuses tend to be frank, etc.
    6. OPTIMISM. Geniuses never doubt they will succeed. Deliberately focus your mind on something good coming up.  Again, see my #4.
    7. ABILITY TO JUDGE. Try to understand the facts of a situation before you judge. Evaluate things on an opened minded, unprejudiced basis and be willing to change your mind.  My mentality of genius would include this; it’s just the truism, be intelligent.
    8. ENTHUSIASM. Geniuses are so excited about what they are doing, it encourages others to cooperate with them. Really believe that things will turn out well. Don’t hold back.  Maybe, but I tend to see being a loner in your field as more likely a characteristic of a genius temperament.
    9. WILLINGNESS TO TAKE CHANCES. Overcome your fear of failure. You won’t be afraid to take chances once you realize you can learn from your mistakes.  #4.
    10. DYNAMIC ENERGY. Don’t sit on your butt waiting for something good to happen. Be determined to make it happen.  #4.
    11. ENTERPRISE. Geniuses are opportunity seekers. Be willing to take on jobs others won’t touch. Never be afraid to try the unknown.  #4 and #5.
    12. PERSUASION. Geniuses know how to motivate people to help them get ahead. You’ll find it easy to be persuasive if you believe in what you’re doing.  I suspect ?eniuses are too advanced to be persuasive, and not involved in collective enterprises.
    13. OUTGOINGNESS. I’ve found geniuses able to make friends easily and be easy on their friends. Be a ‘booster’ not somebody who puts others down. That attitude will win you many valuable friends.  No.  Although this fits me more than it doesn’t.  Many ?eniuses are ingoing.  All ?eniuses must be ingoing at times, extremely ingoing, I would say. 
    14. ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE. Geniuses are able to effectively get their ideas across to others. Take every opportunity to explain your ideas to others.  This would be one of the characteristics of a genius mentality, I would guess.  I tend to think it must be the hardest thing for a ?enius to achieve.  A subject worth an essay.  The geniuses most easily getting appropriate recognition before they are dead are those specializing in something where colleagues are in some sense clustered and on the same page–physicists, for example.  Their VOCATION needs to have been recognized as significantly a superior one, as physics is, poetry not. 
    15. PATIENCE. Be patient with others most of the time, but always be impatient with your self. Expect far more of yourself than others. #2
    16. PERCEPTION. Geniuses have their mental radar working full time. Think more of others’ needs and wants than you do of your own.  BS.
    17. PERFECTIONISM. Geniuses cannot tolerate mediocrity, particularly in themselves. Never be easily satisfied with your self. Always strive to do better.  I think I would put having high standards for oneself on my list although that would follow from #2, having a need to be great.
    18. SENSE OF HUMOR. Be willing to laugh at your own expense. Don’t take offense when the joke is on you.  I feel I pretty decidedly have this, but don’t see what it has to do with genius.
    19. VERSATILITY. The more things you learn to accomplish, the more confidence you will develop. Don’t shy away from new endeavors.  I’ll have to think about this.  My initial thought is how one should balance improved understanding of one thing versus having many understandings.  But having a genius mentality will automatically cause you to absorb a great many things not obviously related and use many of them (as well as know which ones to scrap).
    20. ADAPTABILITY. Being flexible enables you to adapt to changing circumstances readily. Resist doing things the same old way. Be willing to consider new options.  Have superior accommodance, the most important characteristic of a genius mentality.
    21. CURIOSITY. An inquisitive, curious mind will help you seek out new information. Don’t be afraid to admit you don’t know it all. Always ask questions about things you don’t understand.  I’m sure extreme curiosity, inability to be satisfied with one-step answers, or even ten-step answers, is an important part of the genius mentality.
    22. INDIVIDUALISM. Do things the way you think they should be done, without fearing somebody’s disapproval.  This is on my list.
    23. IDEALISM. Keep your feet on the ground – but have your head in the clouds. Strive to achieve great things, not just for yourself, but for the better of mankind.  Do great things, by your definition.
    24. IMAGINATION. Geniuses know how to think in new combinations, see things from a different perspective, than anyone else. Unclutter your mental environment to develop this type of imagination. Give yourself time each day to daydream, to fantasize, to drift into a dreamy inner life the way you did as a child.  Again, be born with a superior accommodance.

L. Ron Hubbard thought this worthy of re-circulation.  It’s not bad for The National Enquirer, but basically a guide for socio-economic go-getters, not my kind of geniuses.

The list is here, by the way. It’s followed by a lot of interesting comments.

I now need a break from this topic. I hope tomorrow to be able to have an updated list here.

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[1] No matter how often I notice the need of those advocating some point of view to denounce all opposing views as wholly invalid (or is it a–possibly innate–defect that makes it difficult for them to avoid binary thinking?), it almost always makes me shake me head.  I can’t claim I’m never guilty of it, but . . .

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Entry 1683 — Certain Kinds of Facts

Monday, January 5th, 2015

A brand-new dogma of mine: certain kinds of ideas are perceived by our senses as facts.  An obvious one, and one I discussed long ago when beginning to work out my theory of urceptual data, is the circle.  I say that just as we have a sensor the is activated by the color red in a specific area of our visual grid, and eventually results in the activation of a brain-cell which the person involved experiences as a dot of red, we have a group of sensors that are activated by circles like the circumference of a full moon and eventually result in the activation of a brain-cell that we experience as a circle–although without experiencing it long enough or with sufficiently focused attention for us to be more than micraware of it.  Rather than . . . ephemraware of it, or mildly, dully aware of it; or macraware of it.

Certified psychologists have found evidence for what I say about the circle, by the way.

One such ideational fact is dichotomy: a person’s innate recognition of opposites.  Including something versus nothing (which would, and I say does, require senses activated by nothingness.

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Nothing more today,  I had a bad day: I learned I’ll be out $1200 for the repair  of a crown that came off one of my teeth last night.  I had a lot of errands, too.  Nonetheless, I was able to churn out the bs above.
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Entry 1676 — Mars Rules My Moon

Monday, December 29th, 2014

The planet Mars is interfering with my normal reticence, pushing me to throw away the last shred of my pretense of being a Nice Person by finally revealing that I believe men and women are significantly different from one another.  The transiting moon is contributing to the problem because it has entered the house where my natal moon, and that house is ruled by Aries, the sign of Mars!  Meanwhile, Uranus is currently in Aries, too, and (energizingly) trine to my natal sun.  Uranus is my ruling planet, and basically in charge of craziness, which is what it’s mainly energizing in the present case.  So add it to the mix.  As for Mars, it is conjunct to (with?) my natal sun, which is why it’s having such a great effect on me.  Nothing, I fear can now save me.  I must now continue with my follow-up to what I mentioned toward the end of my letter to William Voegeli.

What I believe was standard educated thought for at least a century before I was born and possibly until 1960.  Somewhere along the way the feminist movement ordained that it was invalid, and that was it.  I’m sure many males, and perhaps a few females, still believed it, but we kept our mouths shut.  Let me be as honest as I can (an Aquarian defect): as an unfortunately close-to-100% male (tall, thin, bald-headed, heterosexual and much else I won’t get into): I not only consider men to be vastly superior to women but consider that a healthy point-of-view (and expect healthy women to believe women to be vastly superior to men).  But I’m intelligent enough to see that men and women have to put up with each other.  Needless to say, my innate sex drive makes that unavoidable for me personally, although not nearly as much now as it did earlier.

I believe men and women are innately psychologically different from one another in a way that increases both their need for each other and the friction between them.  Men give life meaning; women make it livable.  To lunge beyond the minor infamies of popular men-as-Martians, women-as-Venusians books.  Back to what I said about a focus on aspiration and a focus on compassion.

Also: men are oaks in winter, needing the foliage that women are more or less as much as women need the structuring mean can provide them.

Men lead, women follow. Margaret Thatcher was a rare exception, an effective leader, there being about as many effective female leaders as there are superior male leaders, but only a hundredth as many effective female leaders as effective male leaders.  Another effective female leader was anthropologist Margaret Mead.  I don’t think much of her standard anthropological views (what makes effective leaders is their ability to think standardly better than most others, and avoid thinking unstandardly, and sometimes standard views make sense), but I think her right when she concluded that while male and female roles varied from one society to another, males always took the roles that society considered its most important ones (as I’m pretty sure it was her, but I’ve never called myself an effective scholar [believe my ideas, not my data]).  I therefore more than half-think political positions are rapidly losing status in our society now that women are taking them over, and that college degrees have almost most entirely lost status with superior males now that females are proving much better at getting them than all but a few males.

As you may have noticed, I’m into my note-scattering mode now, writing thoughts as they occur without trying (much) for any kind of logical presentation.  I’ll try to make connections between notes when I can, though.  Like the connection of what I’m about to get into back to my honesty about myself.  I said I healthily consider my sex superior to . . . my sister’s.  I bring her into this because something she said to me as a little girl (around ten when I was eleven and the two of us were on the wonderful roof of our wonderful childhood house where no one could see us because of the M-shape of the roof we’d climbed down into where its two sides came to a point).  I don’t remember how we got into it but we were arguing about who was better, boys or girls.  I was winning because my sister couldn’t deny that men were physically superior to women, and in our family even my mother (who graduated from high school at the age of 15) agreed men were smarter than women (although, oddly, I thought my mother much smarter than my father until puberty when I realized that he, though slower by quite a bit than she, was deeper).

I had no reply to what she next said: “Only girls can have babies.”  Later I learned of something called “division of labor,” than feminists seem not to believe in.  But it caused me as the asexual objective being that I am to about an equal degree that I am a male to come to understand that sexes as equal but different–however much the male in me scoffs at the idea.

That reproduction is maximally complex in human beings is central to the division of labor between the sexes.  Women have a womb, and it is not some minor organ they have and men don’t.  For one thing, it must require energy for maintenance that must reduce a female’s energy for other things like boxing and writing symphonies.  It more substantially affects the amount of energy a pregnant female has for various activities.

Meanwhile, the male has no womb holding him back.  One major, rarely-mentioned side-effect of his womblessness, however, is how biologically-expendable it makes him, something I immediately recognized when at the age of 32 I learned about copulation.  (Slight exaggeration in hopes that the wittiness of it will keep any female or girly-boy friend of mine who is reading this from being too mad at me.)  Males are close to biologically irrelevant when it comes to reproduction, because one male can keep a village of a hundred nubile females and no males but him doubling in population yearly, and in eleven or twelve years, more than doubling whereas one nubile female in a village of a hundred healthy young men and no females but him will need help from daughters to ever double the population of her village.

This being the case, why wouldn’t Mother Nature make males courageous, sometimes excessively so, and females timid?  Why shouldn’t they hunt and fight other tribes while females gathered vegetables and fruit, and fled from another tribe’s warriors?  In short, why shouldn’t reproductively barely-relevant males be risk-takers–intellectually, eventually, as much as physically–like me, now, I try to convince myself, never having been much of a physical risk-taker, although I believe I would have been had I needed to because of a confrontation between a scared me and a German Shepherd who bit me (actually, just nipped me in the heel), which turned me instantly into a beserker whose scream of rage as I whirled around to face the dog made the it run away.

Of course, women can take on maleness when necessary, Mother Nature realizing there will be times when males are too scarce to fill all the male roles needing filling; but they won’t be as good males as natural males, nor able to keep it up for very long (generally).  Men can make adequate mommies, too, but not usually for a long time.

Women are much better verbally than men . . . practiceptually, which is all that the the verbal portion of IQ tests test (incompletely).  Orally, particularly, due to the female vocal cords–and superior flexibility of mind (which is also a female defect that makes them more suggestible than men–in the long term).

Culturally, women’s main value is their female point-of-view; that is, they can add much to any art or verosophy that no male can, even a maximally feminine one–just as males can supply much that no female can.

After skimming what I’ve so far written, I see that I’ve left out how Mother Nature has used common sense to make those who bear children have a much stronger mothering-instinct than those who may not be present at a child’s birth.  Indeed, it seems obvious to me that women are the timid sex not only to protect themselves, but to protect the children they bear.  And a good reason they are more empathetic than men is to be able to forge closer bonds than men to their children and be able to react faster to their needs, which they feel within to a greater degree than man.

At the same time, this gives men a freedom from domestic responsibilities, to be emotionally as well as physically better able to put aside their families (especially when young and thus more male than they will be) that allows them to go on quests.

I just remembered one other big difference between men and women.  I discovered its importance thirty or forty years ago but this will be the first time in print I’ve mentioned it.  I can’t believe geneticists are not aware of it, but can’t recall ever reading a discussion of it.  It’s the fact that the y-chromosome, which only men have, is so much smaller than the x-chromosome it joins to form the genotype of the potential human being.[1]  Unless I’m mistaken, the difference in size between the two means that many genes in the x-chromosome have no gene from the y-chromosome to fuse with; therefore variation is substantially increased: there’s no gene from the y-chromosome to neutralize or modify a freak gene from the x-chromosome as there would be in a fertilized ovum destined to become a female.

One of my speculations, by the way, is that our species and probably others have a mutation mechanism that intentionally causes genetic mutations, and that its target is the an individual’s sex chromosome–perhaps, in fact, an ovum’s sex chromosome.  Hence, such a mechanism would increase the possibility of genetic variation.

Be that as it may, this greater male genetic variation would explain why more IQ geniuses as well as more of those of severely reduced mental-capacity are male than female, an empirical fact, I believe.  It seems also a fact that males are much more susceptible to genetic defects and to a lesser degree since they are rarer, genetic blessings.

All this would go along with my theory of the biological expendability of males: mother Nature doesn’t mind if a bunch of males are born severely defective, so she can risk them to test new genes on.  I further speculate that she keeps a woman’s mutation mechanism dormant until a woman is in her thirties, thus seeing to it that a woman’s first children are “normal” and only taking a chance of failed experiments on late-born children, children, in other words probably “extra.”  I particularly like the idea as one such late-born who in his own view must have all kinds of genetic mutations in his XY chromosome.  But my impression is that a fair number of superior culturateurs had older mothers.  And it is a fact that the late-born are more likely to be defective than those to young mothers.

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[1] Sorry, right-to-lifers, but fetuses are not human beings for me, although I’d prefer they live as much as I prefer tadpoles to live (which I do) though much less than I want living cats to stay alive.

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My intention today was to get all my evil thoughts about the differences between men and women down, to get them out of the way.  But there are quite a few more, and details to be recorded, and I’m tiring.  To bring this entry past the 2,000-word mark, though,  I’ll mention where differences between the sexes get most interesting.   Those of temperament are the most obvious: men lean toward being rigidniks, women milyoops (though most are a healthy balance between them.

Otherwise, the main ones are in . . . I can’t remember my name for it: the “cerebrawareness?”  All the awarenesses in the cerebrum taken together I mean.  That would be a good term for it.  Anyway, I contend that the cerebrawarelity of females is substantially different from the males.  Females have a more developed anthroceptual awareness than men, for instance.  I’ll get back to this sometime, but I think it less important than other things I want to discuss (although right now I can’t think what they might be).

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Entry 1674 — The Sun & My First House

Saturday, December 27th, 2014

For the past two days or so I have been feeling like I am on the verge of really getting started on a Major Work beginning with an in-depth survey of my theory of awarenesses.  I couldn’t figure out why until I thought of the transitting sun.  That’s what the sun is called when one is considering its location in one horoscope: right now the Sun is at 6 degrees Capricorn in the sky, which puts it just in my horoscope’s first house, which begins at around 3 degrees Capricorn.  This house, as you might guess, has to do with beginnings!

It’s all rot, but fun.  And I have to admit, when my life is suddenly doing something good that my horoscope says it should be doing, it encourages me, however many more times I’ve compared what my horoscope said my life should be doing with what my life was doing and found no similarity at all between the two.  I think it’s because nothing in my life is ever encouraging.  Okay, exaggeration.  What’s more true is that the few things in my life that have been encouraging resulted in nothing but disappointment: get the gig at the Scientific American website, for instance.  To be maximally accurate, I should say that the stars are no worse at predicting good things for me than real life is, and not as depressing when their predictions are full of hooey, because I don’t really believe in them.

On the other hand, anything encouraging is good for me, if I can even half believe in it for a few minutes because I think people like me may have an urceptual optimist in us that is sensitive to any sign of encouragement, and able to minimize all that our internal pessimist tries to warn us about.

Note: you have just had a front eye on the birth of the urceptual optimist and urceptual pessimist: neither existed until I began writing the paragraph above.  They make sense to me, particularly the urceptual optimist.  How else explain the insanity that keeps people like me going no matter how unarguably quickly the unreachability of our goals is increasing?

Hey, I also have three new terms for you: “magni-cerebrevalu-ceptual,”  “practi-cerebrevaluceptual,” and “reflexevaluaceptual.” I’ll save my discussion of these till tomorrow.

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Entry 1668 — Additions & Blither

Sunday, December 21st, 2014

First an addition to my taxonomy of awarenesses: I’ve decided to give what I was temporarily calling the “X-ceptual Awareness” one of the names I previously considered, then junked, “the Magniceptual Awareness.”  My problem with it was that it was too similar to “the Supraceptual Awareness,” the name I had given to my system’s over-all awareness.  I made that problem go away by simply changing “Supraceptual Awareness” to “Cerebral Awareness.”  Pretty clever, wot?  It makes sense since both the Practiceptual Awareness and the Magniceptual Awareness are in, or mostly in, the cerebrum.  And I’m comfortable with the idea of a Sub-Cerebral Awareness located in the cerebellum and other parts of the brain, as well as various places in the secondary nervous system.

Next, a Noun cement that I hope will will cause those of you feeling guilty about getting all this blog’s incredible brilliance for free to express your gratitude with money–to someone on food stamps (due to his actual economic situation, not lies about it, although I did not report the $200 I made as a writer last year in my 2013 request to continue on the dole, nor will I report the $350! I made as a writer this year on my upcoming request).  You can do this by sending me $5 or more for an autographed numbered copy of a limited edition of 4 More Poem Poems.  It just came off the press.  Only 8 copies printed, each with a different cover from the others–in fact, I have just decided to paste a unique original visual image on each cover.  (Note: I really think $20 would be reasonable for anyone who is paying that or more for a subscription to any poetry-related magazine whatever.)  I claim that no one who likes Joycean foolery with the language and surrealism will find at least one of the poems delightful.  And there iz not one (1) but two (2) dreadfully wicked attacks in the collection on our country’s poetry gate-keepers–but only in passing!  Remember, Posterity will really be angry with you for not sending me any money!

To take advantage of this Fabulous Offer, send check & your name&address to:

Bob Grumman
1708 Hayworth Road
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Sorry for the begging, folks.  I’m really not badly off: I still have credit cards that will allow me to borrow over ten thousand dollar before I max them.  I just used on of the cards for $1500, in fact–to have some company try to get the data in an external drive of mine that went bad about a year ago, and has the only copies of a few of my poems, and a lot of my only copies of others’ poems including four or five of Guy Beining’s the originals of which are lost.  But I thought it’d be fun to play marketeer for a little while.  And at least I didn’t bold-face the above.

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Okay, now to what seems to me an interesting question I just wondered into (note: it’s near impossible now for me not to qualify every opinion of mine in some way like this) while discussing Karl Kempton’s current central project, an exhaustively researched history of visual poetry from pre-history on: what poem should be considered the world’s first major full-scale visual poem?  Very subjective, I fear, because of the difficulty in defining both a full-scale poem (for me, to put it simply, it would be a poem that’d be mediocre or worse if not for what it does visually) and a major poem.

I have no idea what poem is but don’t think any of Mallarme’s was because not depending on the visual for anything truly central to them.  Nor Apollinaire’s, which seem primitive to me, although I’d have to look at them again to be sure.  Such a poem would have to have a highly significant and original visual metaphor at its core to get the prize, in my opinion.  Nothing before the twentieth century that I know about does.  I think I’d aware the prize to something by Cummings (although I’m not sure what, and he may not have composed what I’d call a full-scale visual poem); if not Cummings, then Grominger’s “silence,” but not with confidence because I don’t know what other superior visual poems came before it.

Here’s a related question I didn’t send Karl: what poet could be said to have been the world’s first serious, dedicated, lyrovisual poets, by which I mean poet who concentrated a fairly substantial portion of his thoughts and energy to lyrovisual poetry–as opposed to Lewis Carroll who (1) was not a lyrical visual poet and (2) wrote light visual poems (which were nonetheless an important contribution to poetry, or Mallarme or Herbert, neither of whom composed more than a few poems that could be called visual–or, from my standpoint, made primary visual poems, or poems whose visual content was at least as important aesthetically as its verbal content.

I’m not even sure Cummings would qualify for consideration since he did not compose all that many poems I’d call primary visual poems.  I’d have to go through my volume of his complete poetry to be sure of this, though.  So, we have a preliminary question: what poets devoted a fairly substantial portion of his thoughts and energy to lyrovisual poems.  My impression is that Kenneth Patchen was one of them.  I think Apollinaire probably was, too.  Most of the concrete poets seem to have been. I know I’ll annoy a number of you with my next pronouncement: it is that fewer and fewer people calling themselves visual poets devote much, or any, time to the composition of visual poems, preferring to make textual designs (and mostly doing extremely well at it).

Now another addition, this to my thoughts about urceptual personae:

It occurred to me that I made no attempt in yesterday’s entry to indicate the biological advantage of having . . . ursonae, so I’ll try to do that now.  I’ll need to go into some detail about the way an urceptual persona is created.  For an example, I’ll use the urnemy (no, I’m just foolin’ around: I won’t make that my new name for “the urceptual enemy”).  When a baby first sees its father, it will automatically be thrust into its socioceptual awareness[1] where its urceptual persona recognition mechanism is.  This mechanism will activate the baby’s urceptual other—due to such stimuli as the father’s face and arms.  The father will be unfamiliar to it (probably, although he may have experienced enough of him while in the womb for him to be familiar; or perhaps any face will be familiar enough not to cause the baby pain, or even to cause it pleasure; assume here, though, that the father is unfamiliar to the baby, maybe because he has a beard and is first encountered while he is sneezing or farting).  Since the unfamiliar causes pain according to my theory, and pain caused by another person has to be one of the stimuli causing the activation of a person’s urceptual enemy, the baby’s urceptual enemy will become active.

The baby will withdraw as much as possible from its enemy, the father, because urceptual personae automatically activate appropriate certain reflexive behavior.  This is value #1 of an urceptual persona.

At this point, I am going to drop the urceptual enemy for not being as good a choice as an example as I first thought.  I’ll go instead to the urceptual father.  In the scenario I began, the father will almost certainly not continue to activate the baby’s urceptual enemy for long, if he even does so when the baby first encounters him.  The baby’s mother will probably be with the father and say something like, “Here’s your daddy, Flugwick (or whatever the kid’s name is),” in a momvoice, accompanied by a mom smile, and many another mo0mfeature, so neutralize the father’s unfamiliarity.  And the father will smile and say something in a gentle voice and perhaps, tickle the kid under the chin—certainly something likely to seem pleasant to the kid.  In short, little Flugwick’s urceptual persona recognition mechanism will soon activate its urceptual father (I now think a baby will recognize the first male it encounters as its father—but be able to correct the error before long—rather than as a friend; if my hypothesis turns out valid, it will be easy to determine exactly what happens.

Be that as it may, eventually the baby will (in normal circumstance) automatically perceive its father as both a certain shape with a certain voice and smell—and as its urceptual father.  The activation of the latter will help it more quickly react to the father appropriately.  It will learn from its social environment—mainly its family—the details of appropriate reactions not instinctive like its smile will be until it learns enough to control it.

That an urceptual persona will double the ability of the real person it is attached to cause reactions is it second extremely important biological value.  For one thing, this will make people more important than almost anything else to a person, which would obviously help a species survive.

What might be as important to a person as people?  Here’s where my superspeculative nature takes over from my speculative nature.  The goals a person shoots for may become as important to a person as others, or even himself  Beauty, for an artist.  As I’ve already tried to demonstrate, an artist will almost surely be motivated to some small or large degree to create an object of beauty to gain others’ approval.  But simply to create something of beauty for its own sake can very well be his main motive, or even his only motive.  I’m back to the magniceptual awareness where one might go to concentrate on beauty free of interpersonal concerns.  Where I increase my speculativeness is in thinking puberty may open a person’s magniceptual awareness—give him doors into it, or significantly increase his doors into it.  I strongly suspect a male’s magniceptual awareness is significantly large than a female’s.  Just as a female’s anthroceptual awareness is much larger than a male’s. Of course, feminists will take this to be an insult to women, but I don’t see it as that.  Well, as a male, I have to think of what I am as superior to females, but nonetheless trying to be objective about it, there’s no reason to say that interpersonal matters require less talent than impersonal matters.

The joke is that all this will be moot when asexual computers take over the world, reproducing like protocytes—with ecstasy.  But who knows, they may be us.
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[1] According to Me, among everyone’s ten major awarenesses[2] (so far) is an anthroceptual awareness, which consists of two sub-awarenesses, the egoceptual awareness which is where a person experiences himself as an individual, and the socioceptual awareness, where he experiences himself as a member of his society.  Each of these is one of the “intelligences,” in Howard Gardner’s writings on the subject.

[2] A major awareness is an awareness just under one of the primary awarenesses on my taxonomical chart of the awarenesses.

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Entry 1665 — Additions to Yesterday’s Entry

Thursday, December 18th, 2014

Note: in yesterday’s entry, I opposed entities that are “real,” because capable of being sensorily perceived, to “imaginary” ones that cannot be perceived.  I should have used “communicatively perceived” in place of just “perceived,” or whatever term I used for that.  That’s because some believers in Eastern x-ceptualities, believe themselves actually perceiving gods and the like whom others cannot.  I say that if I see a tree, and say the tree is real and get almost any sane person to look at it and agree with me that it is, I have identified a communicably perceivable entity whereas if an Eastern mystic says he went somewhere in his mind, or some like place, and talked with his god, his god is only perceptible to him, if he cannot take me where I can also meet him; the god is not communicably perceivable.

This goes back to the two realities idea of mine.  I’m not sure what nutto names I gave them, but they are the personal reality and the collective reality, and–for me–the only one the means anything is the collective reality: reality is what I and others agree it is.  I think my personal reality is almost the collective’s.  The important differences are no questions not yet genuinely decided by the collective: for instance, the value of my cultural contributions.  I suspect there will never be a fair way to determine that but the collective’s current answer would have to be”who knows.”

As I think more on it, it seems to me there might be two collective realities: the one with a city called New York separated by an ocean called the Atlantic from a city called London, and we go into our x-ceptual awareness to consider.  There most questions are a good deal less than 95% decided by the collective, and I think it fair not to consider something to be part of the collective reality (“objective reality” is or should be my name for this unless 95% of the clearly sane say it is.  It is insane, though, to reject something proposed as real because it hasn’t gotten enough votes; one must accept it as not sufficiently demonstrated only.

Maybe I’m saying objective reality is what we deal with in a practiceptual awareness, while insufficiently-demonstrated reality makes up most of what we deal with in our higher awareness.  From another slant, objective reality consists of entities; non-practiceptual possible reality consists of the inter-relationships of entities.

I’ve thought more about what to call x-ceptuality.  “Sapienceptuality” may be my best attempt, but it’s not right.  “Aristoceptuality” gets it almost exactly, but only if we put aside the fact that most aristocrats are not very bright.  And Aristotle, my favorite philosopher, had little to do with the arts.  Another miss: “Magnaceptual,” out because too similar to “Supraceptual,” which I want to keep for my ruling awareness.

I thought of following Siggy in using the names of gods which would have given me “Apolloceptual.”  But what god’s name could I use for “practiceptual,” assuming I could give up that name, which seems near ideal for what I want it to mean.  Also, Apollo seems to me to represent only part of where goes on in the “second” awareness.

“Significeptual?”  I like it but fear it’s too much of a slur on the practical.   I thought of “culturaceptual” because the practiceptual awareness has to do with survival and comfort, the other awareness with what I think of as culture.  But “culture” is a contaminated word.

“Abracaceptual?”  A good one, but no.

Fie on it.  I’m quitting for now.
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Entry 1649 — More Blither about Words

Tuesday, December 2nd, 2014

Another of my too tired to do anything days.  I suppose I should begin calling them my “Elderly Codger Days.”  So the main item for you today is an excerpt from an email I wrote to Sabrina Feldman protesting the way she and other adherents to the proposition that Shakespeare was not the author of the works attributed to him too frequently refer to questions concerning his life and related matters call them “mysteries” rather than questions not yet satisfactorily answered:

For me, a mystery is a question for which there seems no even semi-plausible possible answer not employing in the equivalent of a deus ex machina whereas a problem is a question for which there is at least one plausible possible answer employing no deus ex machina, and there are many plausible possible answers to the Two-Shrew Problem including yours.  Sorry, but I have this need to force The World to accept My Definition of certain words (like “poetry,” when some of my friends claim a poem need not have any words, or “marriage,” when so many are able to take it to mean a union of mirror-images rather than of opposites ) and “mystery” became one of them after my encounter of so many authorship-skeptics telling us that things like what my Willie was doing for three or four of his younger years is a mystery instead of just unknown (without the slightest reason for that to seem strange to any sane person knowing anything of the times).

But, wait!!! That’s not all I have for you!  From my unstifleable  coinage factory I have received three new coinages: cerebritecture,  triflitecture  and reptilitecture, for high-brow, middle-brow and low-brow culture, respectively (and only roughly, because actual high-brow culture is crap whereas I want cerebritecture to mean the culture of genuinely high cultural taste).  I expect to say more about these when not held back by my codgerality.

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Entry 1639 — Choice of Ethotactic, Part 4

Saturday, November 22nd, 2014

What I’ve said so far suggests a question to me: can something a person does with no ethical intentions be ethotactical?  For instance, say I am with a friend I know to be much more poor than I and we  come upon an apple tree in a public forest with one apple on it, and I pick it and eat it, not thinking of my friend.  Or, for a more colorful example, say I have been taught that Irishmen are subhuman creatures without the ability to feel pain, and that hunting them will be good practice in the use of firearms that one may one day need to fight off aliens from outer space.  So I shoot a few Irishmen between the eyes, inflicting pain on them without realizing it, and even perhaps killing one or two of them.  Have I behaved immorally?

According to my theory of knowlecular psychology, no.  That’s because an ethotactic, or the choice of a moral or immoral action, can only be the result of some anthroceptual decision based on living in harmony with a known social code.

I think I would go so far as to say that my killing an Irishmen or two in such a case is not immoral even according to most people’s standards.  Many would protest, but because it would seem that I would be excusing a Nazi taught to consider Jews sub-human for gassing them.  I would excuse the Nazi, but only morally.  For me, he would be not immoral, but homicidally stupid—and therefore deserving to be reprimanded!  Sorry.  I have a weakness for black humor.  What I believe is that such a person should be prevented from continuing to gas Jews by being executed—unless one truly believes some kind of re-education can make him accept Jews as human, and he is compelled to repay society for his social stupidity by spending the rest of his life shining the shoes of Jews for free or something.

Ultimately, I believe all reprehensible acts are acts of stupidity, and that what kind of stupidity is involved—moral stupidity or some other kind of stupidity—is irrelevant.  Society should be maximally protected from the person acting reprehensibly (and protected from his genes, for I believe criminals [real criminals], and that’s who I’m talking about, should not be allowed to breed).  Of course, I realize I’m making a complex subject seem much more cut&dry than it is.  Just ideas to counteract simple-minded bad/good anti-continuumism and the insensitivity of certain sentimentalists to Evil.

About evil I will say that all definitions of it are necessarily subjective, but that it does exist, and can be defined sociobjectively.  Sociobjectivity is a view of an idea that is held by such a large majority of the members of a society and which has an objective neurophysiological basis as to be close enough to true objectivity as to be taken as such.  Take the evil of killing an innocent child.  Almost everyone would disapprove of that, and (I believe) almost all of us are instinctively repelled by the deed, and—in fact—would instinctively try to prevent a child, innocent or not, from being killed.

Not that our instinct to use reason would necessarily not be involved.  If effective, it might tell us that our standing in society will go up if we stop someone from murdering a child.  Although our instinct to advance statoosnikally would be part of that.  Actually, I think in most cases, protecting the child would be reflexive whereas our explanation would be taken care of mostly by our reasoning.

To be honest, if I were dominated by reason, I would never risk my life, even as the old man I now am, for some child, because what I believe I may contribute to World Culture is almost sure to be more than what the child will, however long he lives.  The problem with that, of course, is that my ability to reason may be defective, in which case, my not saving a child at the risk of losing my own life would be stupid integrity–that is, acting according to my code that I should protect my own life at all costs because of its great value to the world.  I claim that following that code would be absolutely valid if I were another . . . Nietzsche, without his breakdown.

Needless to say, the idea that Evil is what some deity has said it to be is absurd; various deities have universally defined certain acts as evil because the men who invented them were instinctively against those acts.  Other non-universal acts, like saying something contemptuous about some deity, have also been said to have been ordained Evil by a deity invented by men not because their inventors were instinctively against such acts but because the definition of Evil helped them gain power or destroy other tribes, or simply because of some personal dislike—of a priest once clawed by a cat that made him claim his main god had defined cats as evil, for example.

I do think that reasoning should dominate every moral choice one makes, but it can’t overcome one’s instincts, all of which are ultimately moral, for a given person.  We can only argue about whose individual morals would work best for the society we want to live in, and perhaps use reason to show that giving in to a society’s chosen code will be better for each individual in the long run, the long run excluding some never-seen Heaven or anything like it.

Which brings to mind the question of whether or not it is moral to lie to the masses and tell them some God will do horrible things to them if they don’t accept a society’s code.  I realize that there are those who don’t believe that our species naturally, due to our genes, divides into different social classes–three of them, roughly speaking:  masters, slaves, and . . . cerebreans.  They’re nuts.

I divide ethics into the study of socioethotactics and the study of egoethotactics . . . I think.  There are two major problems: formulation of a maximally fair and biologically advantageous set of socioethotactics by a society, and an individuals’ reconciling his inevitably conflicting set of egoethotactics with his society’s socioethotactics.

More on this eventually, if I think I can say anything at all interesting about it.

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Note: on the day I made my first entry here about ethotactics, 36 people checked up on me at my Wikipedia entry; rarely do more than 4 people visit it on a day, and none since the first month it was up have anywhere near that many done so.  Were they fans of Jonah Goldberg, whose article I was commenting on?  The visits after that have been few, for or five in a day at most.

Last, and definitely least, here’s this SURVEY again:

Please, Dear Reader, I implore thee: when you have read as much of this entry as you feel like reading, let me know whether you have found it worth reading in full or not by clicking “YES” or “NO” below. You would help me a great deal, and might even get me to make my entries more reader-friendly. (And for the love of Jayzuz, please don’t try to spare my feelings by politely declining to click the NO although you think the entry Vile Beyond Imagination. Oh, some of you may need to know that I am not asking you whether you agree with me or not!)

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Entry 1304 — Wow, Two More Coinages!

Thursday, December 19th, 2013

“Propagandfication” and “Othereststream Poetry.”

The first is from the following post I just sent off to a site where I’m arguing against wacks who believe Shakespeare was an imposter and had called a post by one of them full of sludge, whereupon he questioned the appropriateness of my use of the term:

As a verosopher, I consider sludge by authorship wacks to be groundless assertions and badly-supported arguments that have been refuted hundreds of times by the sane.  Among them are such assertions as one you favor: “No one wrote a eulogy to Shakespeare after he died until 1623.”  The Water poet did.  Basse almost certainly did.  Maybe one or two others.  Read David Kathman’s essay on this at his and Terry Ross’s site.  I quote much of what he says in it in my book.

But even if we did not have the Water poet’s poem, or any other poem to Shakespeare until 1623, the assertion would be what I call a propagandification, which is a statement which some propagandist presents as true although we lack sufficient data to determine whether it is genuinely true or not.  If we had no poems dedicated to Shakespeare until 1623, a scholar of integrity would NOT say, “No one wrote a eulogy to Shakespeare after he died until 1623,” he would say, “No poem dedicated to Shakespeare after he died until 1623 has survived.”  If not an authorship wack, he would add that there is no reason to expect that any would, or even that any would necessarily have been written, although he would guess that some were but were withheld for publication in the First Folio.  He would certainly not consider the lack of poems to mean much beside all the evidence there IS for Shakespeare.  Absence of evidence can be useful when the identity of an author is obscure due to scarcity of data, but a monument, a collection of plays with the author’s name and picture in it, and known associates of his confirming his identity, forty or so books from when he was alive with his name on the title-page, mentions of him as a writer by a number of writers of his time, and much else is not scarcity of evidence.

The second occurred to me this morning when I was contemplating how “otherstream poetry” has lost the meaning I gave it–because so many use it for poetry I consider standard, like simple neo-Ashberianism.
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Entry 1199 — Wackagandism

Saturday, August 31st, 2013

My latest coinage means “the propagandistic techniques of cranks, kooks and others advancing totally insane theories of verosophy such as the idea that someone other than William Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works attributed to him.”  It came to me while thinking about the contributions of Oxfordian Steve Steinberg to the thread here about the Oxfordian movie, Anonymous.  In reply to a post of mine trying for the third or fourth time to explain an argument against a contention of his, he told me that in order to explain something, I had to know something.  Here’s what I wrote back:

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Good one, Steve, but somewhat off the mark.  Nonetheless, it’s gotten me to try to explain something to you again.  What I’m going to try to explain to you is how bad your tendency almost always to dodge problems with your position makes you look.  No, I realize that first I must explain to you that you DO this, for I fear I believe you don’t realize you do.  I will use this short back&forth of ours to do so.

First off, I describe a problem I have with your position: your contention that Shakespeare of Stratford would not have been exposed to a more or less standard curriculum is wrong.  You called the presumption that English schools of the time had any kind of standard curriculum a “myth” (debasing one of the world’s most precious terms by misusing it as a synonym for “error,” and implied synonym for “lie” the way so many propagandists moronically do).

At this point, you derided me for claiming that Latin, a single scholastic subject, could mean “curriculum,” or collection of subjects.  Or so I interpreted you to be doing.  You ignored the full context of my post which, I feel, should have made my point clear.  In any case, you made no attempt to figure out what my point was, if you truly failed to understand it, nor ask me what it was.  You EVADED the problem I had tried to bring to your attention.

2. Still, maybe I WAS (Italics intended) unclear.   If I was, my next post should have helped you, although it was sarcastically put.  Here is where your nature as a propagandistic evader of problems to your case came fully to the fore: as I probably not fully accurately recall, you continued not to understand my point; more important, you spread the conversation all over the place, a standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians (and probably unconscious) to draw one’s opponents into irrelevancies, and away from whatever point they are advancing, which you can’t deal effectively with.

3. I restated my point.  Your response to this was simply to tell me I don’t know anything–which, by the way, is another standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians: insulting one’s opponent maximally, consciously or unconsciously aware that making someone angry is a good way to distract him from his central intention.

Okay, now to give you an easy chance to show that you can respond to a description of something that may be wrong with your case without doing what I have claimed you do habitually: I will re-state as clearly as I can what’s wrong with your idea about what Shakespeare would have learned at his grammar school.  All you have to do is say what you disagree with in my statement and why–AND avoid telling me what a jerk Baldwin was (and I am), et cetera.  You must avoid the temptation otherwise to tackle about my characterization of you above, too.  In other words, I want you to demonstrate that you can argue unevasively, not just say you can.  But if you actually attend focusedly to my point, I will be glad to discuss my characterization of the way you operate in a different thread.

Good one, Steve, but somewhat off the mark.  Nonetheless, it’s gotten me to try to explain something to you again.  What I’m going to try to explain to you is how bad your tendency almost always to dodge problems with your position makes you look.  No, I realize that first I must explain to you that you DO this, for I fear I believe you don’t realize you do.  I will use this short back&forth of ours to do so.

First off, I describe a problem I have with your position: your contention that Shakespeare of Stratford would not have been exposed to a more or less standard curriculum is wrong.  You called the presumption that English schools of the time had any kind of standard curriculum a “myth” (debasing one of the world’s most precious terms by misusing it as a synonym for “error,” and implied synonym for “lie” the way so many propagandists moronically do).

At this point, you derided me for claiming that Latin, a single scholastic subject, could mean “curriculum,” or collection of subjects.  Or so I interpreted you to be doing.  You ignored the full context of my post which, I feel, should have made my point clear.  In any case, you made no attempt to figure out what my point was, if you truly failed to understand it, nor ask me what it was.  You EVADED the problem I had tried to bring to your attention.

2. Still, maybe I WAS (Italics intended) unclear.   If I was, my next post should have helped you, although it was sarcastically put.  Here is where your nature as a propagandistic evader of problems to your case came fully to the fore: as I probably not fully accurately recall, you continued not to understand my point; more important, you spread the conversation all over the place, a standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians (and probably unconscious) to draw one’s opponents into irrelevancies, and away from whatever point they are advancing, which you can’t deal effectively with.

3. I restated my point.  Your response to this was simply to tell me I don’t know anything–which, by the way, is another standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians: insulting one’s opponent maximally, consciously or unconsciously aware that making someone angry is a good way to distract him from his central intention.

Okay, now to give you an easy chance to show that you can respond to a description of something that may be wrong with your case without doing what I have claimed you do habitually: I will re-state as clearly as I can what’s wrong with your idea about what Shakespeare would have learned at his grammar school.  All you have to do is say what you disagree with in my statement and why–AND avoid telling me what a jerk Baldwin was (and I am), et cetera.  You must avoid the temptation otherwise to tackle about my characterization of you above, too.  In other words, I want you to demonstrate that you can argue unevasively, not just say you can.  But if you actually attend focusedly to my point, I will be glad to discuss my characterization of the way you operate in a different thread.

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I then added a second post in which I warned that “I now have a new plan: using quotations from this enormous thread as the basis of a monograph on what I’m tentatively calling ‘Wackagandistic Techniques.’ So be careful what you type. If I actually go through with this, and I only get seriously involved in about two percent of the projects I tell people I’m going to, and finish less than one percent of those, I will post it and make changes to misquotations–or accurate quotations of passages their authors didn’t mean. In other words, I’ll try to be fair, though never not nasty.”

I chose to quote my first post because I think it pretty good–although way off-topic for this blog.  Beware: I will no doubt be using this blog for more matter concerned with wackagandism.  I find that there’s nothing I enjoy more than writing about mental dysfunctionality.  What I write has to be valuable: either because it’s insightful or because it epitomizes mental dysfunctionality.

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Entry 1655 — Back to the SAQ « POETICKS

Entry 1655 — Back to the SAQ

I’m hoping to get some worthwhile work done today, so am going to take care of this entry quickly with a comment I just wrote in answer to a comment by Robert A. Leff on a book about the SAQ (i.e., “Shake- speare Authorship Question”) by Richard M. Waugaman, M.D.

Leff: “I’m surprised there have been only three reviews of Dr. Waugaman’s book. I guess his many fans are busy writing their own books and articles, so they don’t have the time to post the usual five star Oxfordian reviews. On the other hand, perhaps his friends haven’t bought the book because the essays have been previously published. I have no problem with Dr. Waugaman gathering some of his many essays into one collection.

“Knowing how touchy Oxfordians are, I should start by saying I did not buy Dr. Waugaman’s book; I read the essays before. I decided to save my money.

“I’m aware of the long standing Oxfordian practice of declaring Edward de Vere wrote works scholars have said other authors wrote. Dr. Waugaman’s claim that Edward de Vere wrote The Art of English Poesy.  It is true that when the book was published in 1589, the author’s name does not appear on the title page.  Dr. Waugaman is free to propose any candidate of his choice as the author, so he selects Edward de Vere. The majority of English literary scholars and English professors say The Art of English Poesy was written by George Puttenham. Being a good Oxfordian, Dr. Waugaman hisses when the word orthodox is spoken or written.

“I’m sure Dr. Waugaman has read The Art of English Poesy many times, so it is a surprise he missed or overlooked the eighteen words that render his claim that Edward de Vere wrote the book nonsense. In Book 3 Chapter 13, the author writes,”Also in our ecologue entitled “Elpine, which we made being but eighteen years old to King Edward VI…” “Elpine” is a lost work. What is not lost are some important dates.

“George Puttenham was born in 1529 and died in 1590.
Edward VI was born in 1537, became King in 1547 and died in 1553.
If you subtract 1529 from 1547, the answer is 18. Refer back to the quote above and it is clear that 18 year old George Puttenham wrote an ecologue for the new king.

“But wait, you ask, what about Edward de Vere? In 1547, Edward de Vere wasn’t even a gleam in his parents’ eyes. Edward de Vere was born in 1550. When King Edward IV died in 1553, little Eddie was 3 years old!

“Dr. Waugaman and his fellow Oxfordians would have a difficult time convincing themselves and anyone that 3 comes close to 18 no matter how hard they spin things.

“Sorry, Richard M. Waugaman M.D., Edward de Vere did not write The Art of English Poesy.”

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Grumman: “Good argument, Robert, but it has a flaw, I think: why need whoever wrote the eclogue to Edward have written it at any particularly time? Why couldn’t Oxford have written it when 18 in homage to the dead king whose name he shared?

“For me the only flaw in Dr. Waughaman’s book is its failing to give more to the True Shakespeare than he rather timidly does; indeed, I can’t understand how it is that even the best Shakespeare scholars (i.e., those able to read past mere title-page names and such rubbish) cannot see that whoever wrote the plays of Shakespeare had to have written more than just the great literature in all European languages that he clearly did, but all the great music, starting with Campion’s.  And painted all the masterpieces of the age. I fear I’m not well-versed enough in the history of science to say which works of science and philosophy he was responsible for, aside from Bacon’s.

“In conclusion, I commend Dr. Waugaman for a fine beginning to a list of Oxford’s works, but hope even more energetic experts will come to the fore and complete our knowledge of his achievements. I would myself, but–alas–am too tied up with my work on Oxford’s invention of the English language, and the way his friends made it seem it had existed before he was born because they didn’t want his family embarrassed by the number of obscenities he included in his new language, to be able to do so.”

Amusing Aside: I am frequently characterized by those clever enough to see through the authorship hoax to back Willie because I am the kind of person who takes what he was taught in school as gospel!  Ah, if only it were not quite so completely untrue!  I might have gotten somewhere socioeconomically in my poor life.
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Entry 1199 — Wackagandism « POETICKS

Entry 1199 — Wackagandism

My latest coinage means “the propagandistic techniques of cranks, kooks and others advancing totally insane theories of verosophy such as the idea that someone other than William Shakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon wrote the works attributed to him.”  It came to me while thinking about the contributions of Oxfordian Steve Steinberg to the thread here about the Oxfordian movie, Anonymous.  In reply to a post of mine trying for the third or fourth time to explain an argument against a contention of his, he told me that in order to explain something, I had to know something.  Here’s what I wrote back:

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Good one, Steve, but somewhat off the mark.  Nonetheless, it’s gotten me to try to explain something to you again.  What I’m going to try to explain to you is how bad your tendency almost always to dodge problems with your position makes you look.  No, I realize that first I must explain to you that you DO this, for I fear I believe you don’t realize you do.  I will use this short back&forth of ours to do so.

First off, I describe a problem I have with your position: your contention that Shakespeare of Stratford would not have been exposed to a more or less standard curriculum is wrong.  You called the presumption that English schools of the time had any kind of standard curriculum a “myth” (debasing one of the world’s most precious terms by misusing it as a synonym for “error,” and implied synonym for “lie” the way so many propagandists moronically do).

At this point, you derided me for claiming that Latin, a single scholastic subject, could mean “curriculum,” or collection of subjects.  Or so I interpreted you to be doing.  You ignored the full context of my post which, I feel, should have made my point clear.  In any case, you made no attempt to figure out what my point was, if you truly failed to understand it, nor ask me what it was.  You EVADED the problem I had tried to bring to your attention.

2. Still, maybe I WAS (Italics intended) unclear.   If I was, my next post should have helped you, although it was sarcastically put.  Here is where your nature as a propagandistic evader of problems to your case came fully to the fore: as I probably not fully accurately recall, you continued not to understand my point; more important, you spread the conversation all over the place, a standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians (and probably unconscious) to draw one’s opponents into irrelevancies, and away from whatever point they are advancing, which you can’t deal effectively with.

3. I restated my point.  Your response to this was simply to tell me I don’t know anything–which, by the way, is another standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians: insulting one’s opponent maximally, consciously or unconsciously aware that making someone angry is a good way to distract him from his central intention.

Okay, now to give you an easy chance to show that you can respond to a description of something that may be wrong with your case without doing what I have claimed you do habitually: I will re-state as clearly as I can what’s wrong with your idea about what Shakespeare would have learned at his grammar school.  All you have to do is say what you disagree with in my statement and why–AND avoid telling me what a jerk Baldwin was (and I am), et cetera.  You must avoid the temptation otherwise to tackle about my characterization of you above, too.  In other words, I want you to demonstrate that you can argue unevasively, not just say you can.  But if you actually attend focusedly to my point, I will be glad to discuss my characterization of the way you operate in a different thread.

Good one, Steve, but somewhat off the mark.  Nonetheless, it’s gotten me to try to explain something to you again.  What I’m going to try to explain to you is how bad your tendency almost always to dodge problems with your position makes you look.  No, I realize that first I must explain to you that you DO this, for I fear I believe you don’t realize you do.  I will use this short back&forth of ours to do so.

First off, I describe a problem I have with your position: your contention that Shakespeare of Stratford would not have been exposed to a more or less standard curriculum is wrong.  You called the presumption that English schools of the time had any kind of standard curriculum a “myth” (debasing one of the world’s most precious terms by misusing it as a synonym for “error,” and implied synonym for “lie” the way so many propagandists moronically do).

At this point, you derided me for claiming that Latin, a single scholastic subject, could mean “curriculum,” or collection of subjects.  Or so I interpreted you to be doing.  You ignored the full context of my post which, I feel, should have made my point clear.  In any case, you made no attempt to figure out what my point was, if you truly failed to understand it, nor ask me what it was.  You EVADED the problem I had tried to bring to your attention.

2. Still, maybe I WAS (Italics intended) unclear.   If I was, my next post should have helped you, although it was sarcastically put.  Here is where your nature as a propagandistic evader of problems to your case came fully to the fore: as I probably not fully accurately recall, you continued not to understand my point; more important, you spread the conversation all over the place, a standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians (and probably unconscious) to draw one’s opponents into irrelevancies, and away from whatever point they are advancing, which you can’t deal effectively with.

3. I restated my point.  Your response to this was simply to tell me I don’t know anything–which, by the way, is another standardly propagandistic ploy of anti-Stratfordians: insulting one’s opponent maximally, consciously or unconsciously aware that making someone angry is a good way to distract him from his central intention.

Okay, now to give you an easy chance to show that you can respond to a description of something that may be wrong with your case without doing what I have claimed you do habitually: I will re-state as clearly as I can what’s wrong with your idea about what Shakespeare would have learned at his grammar school.  All you have to do is say what you disagree with in my statement and why–AND avoid telling me what a jerk Baldwin was (and I am), et cetera.  You must avoid the temptation otherwise to tackle about my characterization of you above, too.  In other words, I want you to demonstrate that you can argue unevasively, not just say you can.  But if you actually attend focusedly to my point, I will be glad to discuss my characterization of the way you operate in a different thread.

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I then added a second post in which I warned that “I now have a new plan: using quotations from this enormous thread as the basis of a monograph on what I’m tentatively calling ‘Wackagandistic Techniques.’ So be careful what you type. If I actually go through with this, and I only get seriously involved in about two percent of the projects I tell people I’m going to, and finish less than one percent of those, I will post it and make changes to misquotations–or accurate quotations of passages their authors didn’t mean. In other words, I’ll try to be fair, though never not nasty.”

I chose to quote my first post because I think it pretty good–although way off-topic for this blog.  Beware: I will no doubt be using this blog for more matter concerned with wackagandism.  I find that there’s nothing I enjoy more than writing about mental dysfunctionality.  What I write has to be valuable: either because it’s insightful or because it epitomizes mental dysfunctionality.

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Entry 1200 — On Obtusophy and Propagandism « POETICKS

Entry 1200 — On Obtusophy and Propagandism

This from Steve Steinberg at the Anonymous thread:

I “got” what you said exactly Bob. You’re referring to Oxfordian/anti-Stratfordian arguments as “propaganda” and “wack-text” is the closest thing to actual propaganda I’ve encountered in the Shakespeare authorship debate. So is your penchant for making up “ology” words by which to describe us as mentally unsound. That’s okay. I’m cool with it. It’s cute and charming in a way. But, if there is anyone in the SAQ debate who is a ‘propagandist’ it is you!

What follows is what I made of three responses (here with the above because I’m in my null zone again, in spite of having taken what I call my “zoom-dose”: two APCs and a hydrocodrone tablet:

So far, Steve, you’ve done nothing to indicate you understand my simple point except say that you have. I feel that if you had, you would have made some attempt to refute it.

Moreover, you clearly are ignorant of what propaganda is. For one thing, it is NOT name-calling. As I told Ranny, it is AMONG OTHER THINGS, name-calling as a SUBSTITUTE for responsible argumentation. I just about always supply responsible argumentation, so am NOT a propagandist.

But thanks for mislabeling me, for it reminds me that I neglected something important in any discussion like this: definition of argument-establishing terminology. In this case, the main argument-establishing term is “propaganda.” I will now go to my word-processor to work up my preliminary definition of this. I extremely doubt that you could define it, but you’re welcome to try.

Note, the thought has crossed my mind that you may not be a propagandist but seem like on due to your being what I term a “obtusophist”–one not intellectually qualified to participate effectively in verosophical discussions.

Here’s my definition of propagandism (so far–I know it’s more complex than I suggest):

Propagandism (by which I mean the use of propaganda): the promotion of a belief through the excessive use of appeals to emotion and/or invalid argumentation and/or misrepresentations of effective arguments against the belief being promoted, and/or simple distraction–with a minimum of fact-based logical argumentation for the belief or engagement with fact-based logical arguments against the belief.

I say that you have dealt propagandistically with my fully-argued point about Shakespeare’s exposure to a curriculum–because you have failed to engage it, and used distraction against it (bringing up irrelevancies).  Being propagandistic once or twice does not make you a propagandist.  In fact, I think you are an obtusophist.  Someone who comes up with interesting thoughts he can’t effectively defend, and lacks a coherent serious theory.

Note: my description of you as an obtusophist is not an argument against your beliefs, so not propaganda, just a side-opinion.

Later note for here but not the thread: nullosophers, who are those opposing the search for truth, are inevitably propagandists because intentionally confusing whatever the issue is.  Obtusophers act like propagandists but unintentionally.  They sincerely believe they are on the road to some Grand Elucidation of an Important Subject.  Verosophers sometimes operate like propagandists–by smearing opponents, for instance–but not to win an argument but for the joy of smearing a moron.

“Verosophy,” you may need to be reminded, is derived from the Latin for “true” and the Greek for “wisdom”–or “knowledge.”  Hence, a verosopher is a seeker of truth.  This is a required term in English because English lacks a word for philosophers, scientists, historians . . . mathematicians?  My zoom-dose may be taking effect belatedly, for  a flow of thought is beginning to raise me out of the null zone.  I’ve just thought an old small thought about whether or not mathematics is a science.  I say that because it is not if science is considered a quest to understand material reality (like metaphysics is a quest to understand everything else, if there is anything else–and there is: my consciousness, for one thing; maybe yours, too, although I suspect not.  Mathematics, to get back to that, is a quest to understand itself only.  That it’s splendidly useful in science is beside the point.  (Side-thought: for tomorrow’s essay, students, tell me if mathematics is too important in science, not important enough, or employed just the right amount.  It’s greatly over-used in psychology, I think.)

Okay, we need the term, “verosophy” (or some better term if anyone can come up with one), to cover all the forms of serious truth-seeking, to wit: science, philosophy, mathematics, history. . . .  Step back, I feel another coinage gurgling up: “sociodominancy.”  I think I have some other word for that but it would probably take me a couple of hours to find it, so the heck with it.  Sociodominancy is the art or science of winning ascendancy over others, with sub-categories of politics and . . . war, I guess (I want a spiffier word like “havocry”).  Would chess and bridge be sub-categories of war?  Economics I’d make a sub-category of the science of psychology, ditto political science.  What about geographical exploration?  No.  Geography is a science, exploration a means of gaining truths about it the way looking through a telescope is a means of gaining astronomical truths.

Technology is a sister of science as is art.

Now I have a great urge to see my list of human activities–but I’m so damnable disorganized, I can’t find the list nor where to go that it might be.

* * * I just found one item on the list: “utilitry.”  That would include technology.  Failed to find any more.

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Entry 1122 — Piddling Against the Shakespeare Authorship Wacks « POETICKS

Entry 1122 — Piddling Against the Shakespeare Authorship Wacks

I’m over-involved with a thread at Amazon.com concerning the Shakespeare Authorship Thread (by way of a review of the movie Anonymous in which the Seventeenth Earl of Oxford is depicted as the True Author of the works of Shakespeare).  At present I’ve been sounding off more and more against the unscholarly practices of the wacks rather than their insane delusions, which I feel I’ve skewered sufficiently.  The following is a post inspired by their forever proclaiming that whoever wrote the works of Shakespeare must have had knowledge of the law, medicine, Italy, philosophy, various languages, etc. that the man fools like me think wrote the plays could not possibly have had.  They rarely do more than assert their position, although a few of them have written reasonably articulate books in support of this contention that I consider excessively one-sided and incomplete.  Hence:

You know, if anti-Stratfordians really had any confidence in their authorship theory, they would raise money for the following book, or something like it: An Analysis of the Knowledge of the Author of Twelfth Night. It would consist of two sections. One would be broken into subsections, each of which covered some field such as law, and contained every passage in the play having to do with that subject–AND all reasonable explanations of where the data in the passage could have come from (i.e., a particular book, personal knowledge, common sense) taken from both sides.

The other would consist of the commentary of some scholar chosen by the anti-Stratfordians who presented the case for his side’s explanations and against the other side’s, and a scholar chosen by the Shakespeare establishment doing the reverse.

We will never have such a book because the anti-Stratfordians know it would destroy their central thesis, and the Stratfordians would not think it worth their time.  Or: pay for the publication of such a book by Steve and me. I’d have to be paid, though–half in advance. If I were, I’d do the research, and probably be able to get help from . . . the Trust. Of course, I could stiff you. Against that is my Word. Tah Dah. But also the fact that I’ve done a lot of similar writing for free which suggests I’d do this. Indeed, I’d do THIS for free except that it requires a lot of tedious research, and I hate tedious research (although I believe I can do it competently).

Okay, my suggestion is unfeasible but I’m trying anything I can think of to get someone to send me money, because I’m about as poverty-stricken as can be, even though I DID earn $200 as a writer last year.

Other than that, I believe my suggestion focuses nicely on the kind of necessary scholarly methods of pursuing the truth that anti-Stratfordians are habitually unable or unwilling to take up.

NOTE: Apologies for this post, but remember, for a while I’m going to be filling this blog with just about anything I can think of.  As I fear I’ve too often done before.  It may be worse this time, though!

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