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Entry 1093 — Thoughts Regarding Minimalism

Saturday, May 4th, 2013

I suppose the minimalist artwork below is not bad, but seeing it in the latest issue of ARTnews depressed me, reminding me that minimalist painters, even mediocre ones like Hanne Darboven seemed from this one example to be, were continuing to make big bucks forty or more years after the birth of minimalism while someone like me is making the most money of his life after fifty years or so of adulthood because of food stamps. . . .

Note from 1 February 2014 when I was reviewing the past year.  Apparently the computer problem mentioned in my next entry screwed up this entry.  The reproduction of the Darboven visimage got deleted and all my further comments.  No doubt they had to do with the following specimens of much better specimens of minimalism I found by bp Nichol (the top one) and Irving Weiss the other two:

WaterPoem5

 

 

WaterIntoWordX

 

WateryWords

 

I’m sure I had fascinating things to say about them.

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Entry 1092 — More Cursive Writing by Irving Weiss

Friday, May 3rd, 2013

I was going to discuss the minimalist works of the previous entry in this one but had so much trouble simply setting the entry up due to my deranged computer and/or my blogsite’s programming, that I couldn’t continue after losing half my commentary, who knows why.  In desperation, I scanned another piece that was in Irving Weiss’s Number Poems (The Runaway Spoon Press, 1997) and managed to post it here:

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Nifty visiopoetic portrait of a lady, I think.  I haven’t tried super-hard to read the writing but suspect it consists of various scribbled female names–one is Echo.   Wait, at the top are Scylla and Daphne.  I now suspect these are all nymphs or the like who suffered badly at the hands of various gods and goddesses–hence, if full life only a moment.  And en masse here a barely legible flurry representative of all the feminine magic and mystery of the old religions now long-gone.

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Entry 1091 — Waves

Thursday, May 2nd, 2013

I had all kinds of trouble getting the following images into this post, and I’m exhausted, so won’t say much about them until tomorrow.  I will say that I consider the top one an example of what has been wrong with the arts world for the past 40 or more years.

Darboven01x.
WaterPoem5

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WaterIntoWord

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WateryWords

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Entry 940 — Pronouncements & Blither, Part 2

Sunday, December 2nd, 2012

A few days ago, I got an e.mail from Irving Weiss.  He made some nice remarks about my Scientific American blog, then said that neither “read” nor “peruse” satisfied him “for the way one sticks to looking at a work of abstract art or abstract expressionism or, for that matter, any visual poem lacking identifiable content and without a title to help the viewer. I muse: if you look long at a Pollock, Moherwell, de Kooning, what do you do with your looking mind? You have to avoid thinking of what the painting “looks like” on the one hand and going into a mystical mood or trance. It’s like, if you practice any kind of meditation you must try to avoid going to sleep. What kind of “looking at” is it you exercise while standing in front of a work of abstraction?”

Here’s my answer, to take care of this blog entry: “Glad you’re continuing to keep track of my blog, Irving! I agree with you about “pleruser,” but I do believe some such word is needed and so far haven’t come up with a better. Most excellent question you pose. I think I do a lot of different “looking ats” in front of something by Pollock, say.  A kind of averbal analysis but a purely sensual absorption, back and forth, but maybe, if it’s possible, both at once? I hope other kinds of perception are going on, too. Sense of rhythms—associative glimpsing probably mostly unconscious to my own life-experiences but to other painters, other visual images. And I don’t go long without trying to think of words I could use to describe what the painting is doing for me, the writer’s gift or defect. I’m maxixperiencing it! I’m a maxixperient. Or “magniceptor,” “Magnicepting?” “a maxcipient?” My first good word for this was “aesthcipient,” but I gave it up because it was too hard to pronounce. Urp, Urp, and Away, Bob.”

Close to philogushy, but with some substance, I think.

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Entry 895 — “Gloss Twombley”

Thursday, October 18th, 2012

Here’s something from Irving Weiss’s collection, Identities, which is published by Xexoxial Editions (www.xexoxial.org).  I’m posting it here so people following the discussion I’m moderating at ART=TEXT=ART, which so far has been almost entirely about Twombly’s “Untitled” of 1971, can come and see it.

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Entry 856 — Another from Irving’s New Collection

Sunday, September 9th, 2012

This one’s quite a bit different from yesterday’s–to show you the range of the work in Irving Weiss’s new Identities:

 

It seems wonderfully to represent the Jewish/Hebrew/Yiddish/Middle-Eastern experience–to Gentile me.  I recognized “Moishe” as a Jewish name, but looked it up on the Internet to check and found out that, as I should have known, it is also a Hebrew (or Yiddish) Variant of “Moses,” which was Egyptian.  But I’d already interpretted the work to be about the Exodus (“Moses” already being written in it)–and about the whole Jewish experience–the quest for a home, the struggle against . . . near-Hell? but certainly the hostility of the desert.  But also, for me, the glorious triumph over, or out of, oppression both by Nature and by tribal enemies.  The magical (note the amount of astrology in the piece) triumph.  Knowing Irving, though, and having had a lot of Jewish friends throughout my life, and been exposed to a great deal of Jewish comedy–the Marx Brothers to Woody Allen (before he sold out to “seriousness”), I find a kind of irony, even farce in it–from its title, which suggests both an imploration of the Heroic Leader to get the tribe through its perils but also –well, calling a Jewish kid to dinner.  But I also take “Moishe” as a pun for “Mercy!” which would make the piece essentially about a final escape into a promised land not yet attained.

I could go on into a sociological analysis of Jewishness, which I do think I have a good idea of because they don’t seem to me that much different from me, if different at all (one reason I got quite involved in geneology was the hope that I’d find out that at least one of my ancestors was Jewish; the closest were all the Protestants who were the heretics of their time).  No time for that.  I’ll just repeat that this piece seems to me a powerful, far-ranging expression of Judaism.  And a wonderfully moving piece of verbo-visual art whatever it is taken to mean!

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Entry 855 — An Appropriately Titled “Untitled”

Saturday, September 8th, 2012

The following infraverbal masterpiece is the world’s first artwork given the title, “Untitled,” appropriately. It’s just one of the 78 pieces in Identities, a collection of work by Irving Weiss just out from Xexoxial Editions.  It’s something to wonder through many more times than once, with a fantastic skitter through the arts, from low to high, 100% verbal to 100% visual, the comic to the largest ultimates (as well as a combination of both). I hope to say more about it here and elsewhere.

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Entry 1672 — Merry Christmas!

Thursday, December 25th, 2014

This card by bpNichol came to me via Ellie and Sarah Nichol this year:

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It’s a reproduction of his first Christmas Card, 1979.  (That was just 9 years before his death at 44.)  I exchanged one or two brief letters with bp toward the end of his life, so can’t say I was very close to him.  But I’m pretty close to his oeuvre.  I mention how slightly I knew him because of my reaction to this card: I take it to be full of his spirit–bp, the gift-giving Santa, waving as he disappears behind hills of snow, leaving behind a wonderful H/castle, the letter H being his favorite letter and, as a textual element, representative of literature– and a castle being what a bp/Santa in this magical realm would have to have been leaving.  Ergo, the main gift he’s given us is his poetry.  The fact that he died too soon after this card adds a melancholy tone to what it conveys–that I feel deepens, and is deepened by, the card’s final joyous victory over life’s unavoidable, constant pains and sorrow.

I generally feel that a poem is what it is on the page.  Its creator, and his biography are irrelevant.  Sometimes that is not the case.  Not that I may not have gone overboard the wrong way in reading it.  In any case, I hope you enjoy it–and all that the day it celebrates is for you.

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Entry 1672 — Merry Christmas!

Thursday, December 25th, 2014

This card by bpNichol came to me via Ellie and Sarah Nichol this year:

2014ChristmasCard

It’s a reproduction of his first Christmas Card, 1979.  (That was just 9 years before his death at 44.)  I exchanged one or two brief letters with bp toward the end of his life, so can’t say I was very close to him.  But I’m pretty close to his oeuvre.  I mention how slightly I knew him because of my reaction to this card: I take it to be full of his spirit–bp, the gift-giving Santa, waving as he disappears behind hills of snow, leaving behind a wonderful H/castle, the letter H being his favorite letter and, as a textual element, representative of literature– and a castle being what a bp/Santa in this magical realm would have to have been leaving.  Ergo, the main gift he’s given us is his poetry.  The fact that he died too soon after this card adds a melancholy tone to what it conveys–that I feel deepens, and is deepened by, the card’s final joyous victory over life’s unavoidable, constant pains and sorrow.

I generally feel that a poem is what it is on the page.  Its creator, and his biography are irrelevant.  Sometimes that is not the case.  Not that I may not have gone overboard the wrong way in reading it.  In any case, I hope you enjoy it–and all that the day it celebrates is for you.

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Entry 1093 — Thoughts Regarding Minimalism

Saturday, May 4th, 2013

I suppose the minimalist artwork below is not bad, but seeing it in the latest issue of ARTnews depressed me, reminding me that minimalist painters, even mediocre ones like Hanne Darboven seemed from this one example to be, were continuing to make big bucks forty or more years after the birth of minimalism while someone like me is making the most money of his life after fifty years or so of adulthood because of food stamps. . . .

Note from 1 February 2014 when I was reviewing the past year.  Apparently the computer problem mentioned in my next entry screwed up this entry.  The reproduction of the Darboven visimage got deleted and all my further comments.  No doubt they had to do with the following specimens of much better specimens of minimalism I found by bp Nichol (the top one) and Irving Weiss the other two:

WaterPoem5

 

 

WaterIntoWordX

 

WateryWords

 

I’m sure I had fascinating things to say about them.

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Entry 1091 — Waves

Thursday, May 2nd, 2013

I had all kinds of trouble getting the following images into this post, and I’m exhausted, so won’t say much about them until tomorrow.  I will say that I consider the top one an example of what has been wrong with the arts world for the past 40 or more years.

Darboven01x.
WaterPoem5

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WaterIntoWord

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WateryWords

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Entry 1082 — “Water Poem 5,” by bpNichol

Tuesday, April 23rd, 2013

Recently, Ellie Nichol (yes, I’m name-dropping!  I’d do that more often if I had more names to drop, or were more confident of my ability to lie [never having gotten over the wicked insults I endured after I mentioned the time I spent ghost-writing mathematical poems for Mamie Eisenhower, which really wasn’t that far from the truth considering that I did see Dwight Eisenhower at the Norwalk, Connecticut, train station during his first campaign for president,and I really do believe that Mamie’s poems were influenced by mine).   Where was I?  Oh, yes: Ellie Nichol recently sent me a copy of a book of variations, a just-published edition containing three of her husband bp’s early collections, love: a book of remembrances, zygal: a book of mysteries and translations, and art facts: a book of contexts.  It has all kinds of great items in it, but the following may be my favorite of them:

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It’s so wonderfully simple.  I would love to use it as a term in one of my long division poems, but it’s too much better by itself than it could ever be as part of another poem for me to do that.  It says so much ALL–all at once!  Serenity.  Foreverness.  Sameness jittering just enough here and there to attain identity–maximal identity.  A little horizontal line making it what it is for Man, The Verosopher, as opposed to man, the life-form. So it’s a voyage as well as an environment.  Purpose as well as permanent indeterminacy . . . But–and this is important!–water!  I’m afraid I have to say that anyone seeing this for the first time and not being charmed by is almost certainly hopelessly insensitive to visual poetry, and probably haiku, which it also is.

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Entry 602 — Something by bp

Friday, December 23rd, 2011

Every Christmas I get something very nice in the mail from bp Nichol’s wife Eleanor.  This year it was this:

 

 Diary Entry

Thursday, 22 December 2011, 4 P.M.  Another tennis morning–practice, not a league match.  I dropped some items off at the Arts & Humanities Council office, then did a little marketing.  After getting home I haven’t done much but escape read.  Just now, though, I’ve read over what I’d previously written about Jake Berry’s essay on the Otherstream.  It’s not bad but disorganized, so I printed out a copy to try to work out something that seems logically arranged from.  (Hard to do that on the computer, for me.)

8 P.M.   I’m getting very few Christmas cards this year, which does not make me unhappy, but one I like very much to get, the one from Eleanor Nichol and her daughter Sarah, arrived today.  I just used it to take care of this entry.

 

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Entry 602 — Something by bp « POETICKS

Entry 602 — Something by bp

Every Christmas I get something very nice in the mail from bp Nichol’s wife Eleanor.  This year it was this:

 

 Diary Entry

Thursday, 22 December 2011, 4 P.M.  Another tennis morning–practice, not a league match.  I dropped some items off at the Arts & Humanities Council office, then did a little marketing.  After getting home I haven’t done much but escape read.  Just now, though, I’ve read over what I’d previously written about Jake Berry’s essay on the Otherstream.  It’s not bad but disorganized, so I printed out a copy to try to work out something that seems logically arranged from.  (Hard to do that on the computer, for me.)

8 P.M.   I’m getting very few Christmas cards this year, which does not make me unhappy, but one I like very much to get, the one from Eleanor Nichol and her daughter Sarah, arrived today.  I just used it to take care of this entry.

 

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2 Responses to “Entry 602 — Something by bp”

  1. One bp card is worth the thousands that mean nothing.

    How luck you are!

  2. Bob Grumman says:

    I am lucky, Conrad. Glad I can share it with visitors like you!

    all best, bob

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Entry 1091 — Waves « POETICKS

Entry 1091 — Waves

I had all kinds of trouble getting the following images into this post, and I’m exhausted, so won’t say much about them until tomorrow.  I will say that I consider the top one an example of what has been wrong with the arts world for the past 40 or more years.

Darboven01x.
WaterPoem5

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WaterIntoWord

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WateryWords

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Entry 1093 — Thoughts Regarding Minimalism

Saturday, May 4th, 2013

I suppose the minimalist artwork below is not bad, but seeing it in the latest issue of ARTnews depressed me, reminding me that minimalist painters, even mediocre ones like Hanne Darboven seemed from this one example to be, were continuing to make big bucks forty or more years after the birth of minimalism while someone like me is making the most money of his life after fifty years or so of adulthood because of food stamps. . . .

Note from 1 February 2014 when I was reviewing the past year.  Apparently the computer problem mentioned in my next entry screwed up this entry.  The reproduction of the Darboven visimage got deleted and all my further comments.  No doubt they had to do with the following specimens of much better specimens of minimalism I found by bp Nichol (the top one) and Irving Weiss the other two:

WaterPoem5

 

 

WaterIntoWordX

 

WateryWords

 

I’m sure I had fascinating things to say about them.

.

Entry 1091 — Waves

Thursday, May 2nd, 2013

I had all kinds of trouble getting the following images into this post, and I’m exhausted, so won’t say much about them until tomorrow.  I will say that I consider the top one an example of what has been wrong with the arts world for the past 40 or more years.

Darboven01x.
WaterPoem5

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WaterIntoWord

.

WateryWords

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