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		<title>Entry 596 &#8212; A Final Version of my Sonnet, Again</title>
		<link>http://poeticks.com/2011/12/17/entry-596/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bob Grumman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#8217;t stay way from it.  I kept running it through my mind since posting the previous version here a week or two ago, finally coming up with the version below the night of 15 December.  Note, each line should be pronounced as an iambic pentameter, including the third.           Sonnet from My Forties      Much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">I couldn&#8217;t stay way from it.  I kept running it through my mind since posting the previous version here a week or two ago, finally coming up with the version below the night of 15 December.  Note, each line should be pronounced as an iambic pentameter, including the third.     </p>
<p style="text-align: left;">     <strong>Sonnet from My Forties</strong></p>
<p>     Much have I ranged the kingdoms Stevens forged<br />
     Of deeply penetrating inquiries<br />
     Into, and deft use of, the metaphor,<br />
     And volumes filled in vain attempts to reach</p>
<p>     The heights that he did. Often, too, I’ve been<br />
     To where the small dirt’s awkward first grey steps<br />
     Toward high-hued sensibility begin<br />
     In Roethke’s verse, or measured the extent</p>
<p>     Of wing-swirled, myth-electric, royal light<br />
     That Yeats achieved, or marveled down the worlds<br />
     That Pound re-morninged splashingly to life,<br />
     But failed as dismally to match their works.</p>
<p>     Yet still, nine-tenth insane though it now seems,<br />
     I seek those ends; I hold to my huge dreams.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"> <strong>Diary Entry</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Friday, 16 December 2011, 11:30 A.M.  I have a few small exhibition-bookkeeping chores yet to do that I&#8217;m letting go for this weekend so I can concentrate on the stack of reviews for <em>Small Press Review</em> I have to do.  One of them will be of <em>I</em>, a novella by Arnold Skemer that I find excellent but a very slow read, in the best sense of the description. </p>
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		<title>Entry 586 &#8212; &#8220;Sonnet from My Forties&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://poeticks.com/2011/12/07/entry-586/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 05:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bob Grumman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While hunting this morning for an essay of mine that had something in it I wanted to tell Richard Kostelanetz about, I came across a copy of Jake Berry&#8217;s zine, The Experioddicist, and found a version of the sonnet of mine I wrote about in my Of Manywhere-at-Once.  I spent months on it, never getting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">While hunting this morning for an essay of mine that had something in it I wanted to tell Richard Kostelanetz about, I came across a copy of Jake Berry&#8217;s zine, <em>The Experioddicist</em>, and found a version of the sonnet of mine I wrote about in my <em>Of Manywhere-at-Once.</em>  I spent months on it, never getting it right, then continued working on it on and off&#8211;until now, never getting it right.  I often thought for a while I had.  That&#8217;s the case now.  The version in <em>The Experioddicist</em> isn&#8217;t quite right, but I immediately saw how I thought I could change it so it was: here&#8217;s the once again <em>final</em> version:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">     <strong>Sonnet from My Forties</strong></p>
<p>     Much have I ranged the broad-skied latitudes<br />
     That Stevens festivalled his inquiries<br />
     On truth and the imagination to,<br />
     And reams used up in vain attempts to reach</p>
<p>     The heights that he did. Often, too, I&#8217;ve been<br />
     To where the small dirt&#8217;s awkward first grey steps<br />
     Toward high-hued sensibility begin<br />
     In Roethke&#8217;s verse, or measured the extent</p>
<p>     Of wing-swirled, myth-electric, royal light<br />
     That Yeats achieved, or marveled down the worlds<br />
     That Pound re-morninged windily to life,<br />
     but failed as dismally to match their works.</p>
<p>     Yet still, nine-tenth insane though it now seems,<br />
     I seek those ends; I hold to my huge dreams.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Okay, now that I&#8217;ve typed it out, I&#8217;m not so enthusiastic about it.  I changed line 3 from &#8220;On truth and metaphor in due course to&#8221; to &#8220;On truth and the imagination to,&#8221; a definite improvement.  The first stanza still doesn&#8217;t quite do it for me, but the rest of the poem seems fine&#8211;or would, I&#8217;m sure, if I hadn&#8217;t read and reread it some many hundreds of times.  Needless to say, it&#8217;s in the old-fashioned mode of Hopkins/Yeats/Thomas and probably over-rich&#8211;certainly to today&#8217;s taste.  It&#8217;s somewhat redeemed by its use of reversed rhymes (which are full rhymes, <em>not</em> alliterations).  It still sums up my life in poetry, though&#8211;alas.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Tuesday, 6 December 2011, 5 P.M.  A non-productive day, although I did try to get a few things done.  Mainly, I spent a couple of hours getting a copy of terms that are for use in my &#8220;Mathemaku for Scott Helmes&#8221;&#8211;twice, the second time because I needed them a different size.  (Actually, I plan to have a full-size version of the work, and a smaller one, so I can use both sets of terms.)  Earlier, another round of tennis, which went fairly well for me, for a change.  A second breakfast with teammates at the nearby McDonald&#8217;s followed.  Later I had a doctor&#8217;s appointment to get through and some grocery shopping to do.  I got some new medicine for my continuing urinary problems.  Right now I&#8217;m weary, as usual.  I feel, as I often do, that if I could just go to bed and go to sleep for twelve or thirteen hours, I&#8217;d be a new man.  But, although I&#8217;m more than sleepy enough than I should need to be to go to sleep, the chances are I wouldn&#8217;t be able to get to sleep, nor stay asleep for even as much as an hour if I did.</p>
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		<title>Entry 109 &#8212; An Old Sonnet</title>
		<link>http://poeticks.com/2010/02/17/entry-109-mato2-chapter-3-09/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bob Grumman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was around twenty when I wrote this following sonnet.   A few days ago, I changed its last two lines&#8211;and, just now,  line one&#8217;s &#8220;eagle eyes&#8221; to &#8220;sharpened eyes.&#8221;  I have all kinds of trouble evaluating it.  It may be okay or even good, but it&#8217;s  so much in a long-disused style, in spite of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">I was around twenty when I wrote this following sonnet.   A few days ago, I changed its last two lines&#8211;and, just now,  line one&#8217;s &#8220;eagle eyes&#8221; to &#8220;sharpened eyes.&#8221;  I have all kinds of trouble evaluating it.  It may be okay or even good, but it&#8217;s  so much in a long-disused style, in spite of its backwards rhyming that halfwits won&#8217;t consider rhyming, that I can&#8217;t read it with much enjoyment.</p>
<p><strong>John Keats</strong></p>
<p>He read of Greece; and then with sharpened eyes,<br />
espied its gods&#8217; dim conjurations still<br />
in breeze-soft force throughout his native isle&#8211;</p>
<p>in force in clouds&#8217; remote allusiveness,<br />
in oceanwaves&#8217; eternal whispering,<br />
in woodlands&#8217; shadowy impermanence.</p>
<p>Once cognizant of earth&#8217;s allure, he sought<br />
a method of imprisonment &#8211; a skill<br />
with which to hold forever what he saw.</p>
<p>The way the soil and vernal rain converge<br />
in carefree swarming flowers, Keats &amp; Spring<br />
then intersected quietly in verse.</p>
<p>The realms he had so often visited<br />
at once grew larger by at least a tenth.</p>
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		<title>Entry 55 &#8212; 4 Sonnets by Mike Snider</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bob Grumman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my old blog entry #695, I presented a new version of a sonnet I&#8217;d long been trying to write for Dylan Thomas, another failure. In my next two entries I had much better sonnets, all by Mike Snider, which I commented on: 28 December 2005: Several weeks ago, my sometime poetics foe at New-Poetry, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my old blog entry #695, I presented a new version<br />
of a sonnet I&#8217;d long been trying to write for Dylan<br />
Thomas, another failure.  In my next two entries I<br />
had much better sonnets, all by Mike Snider, which I<br />
commented on:</p>
<p>28 December 2005: Several weeks ago, my sometime<br />
poetics foe at New-Poetry, Mike Snider, was kind<br />
enough to send me a (signed!) copy of his chapbook,<br />
<em>44 Sonnets</em>. Its first poem is this:<br />
.</p>
<p><strong>Petulant Muse</strong></p>
<p>Another Sonnet?  Baby, have a heart&#8230;<br />
Try something multi-culti &#8212; a ghazal! &#8211;<br />
Or let me really strut my stuff and start<br />
An epic &#8212; Sing!  Muse &#8212; oh, we&#8217;ll have a ball!</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be important when we&#8217;ve finished it &#8211;<br />
Just think &#8212; your name on Stanley Fish&#8217;s lips,<br />
Our poem tausht in Contemporary Lit,<br />
The fame of Billy Collins in eclipse!</p>
<p>And talk about commitment!  I&#8217;ll be yours<br />
For years!  If we get stale, then, what the fuck?<br />
My sister Callie knows some kinky cures<br />
For boredom.  You should see &#8230; no, that would suck.</p>
<p>Just fourteen lines, and then I get to rest?<br />
I think our old arrangement&#8217;s still the best.<br />
.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d call this a  serious light poem. By that I mean it&#8217;s clever<br />
and fun and funny, but intelligent, with some involvement<br />
with consequential Artists&#8217; Concerns. In any event, I love<br />
the consistent tone and the way it dances intellectuality<br />
and academicism into its mix with its references to Fish,<br />
the ghazal (Arabic poem with from 5 to 12 couplets, all<br />
using the&#8211;good grief&#8211;same rhyme) and to Calliope, the<br />
muse of epic poetry, the Internet just told me (the narrator<br />
I would guess to be Thalia, the muse of comedy and of<br />
playful and idyllic poetry). It feels like a painting of Fragonard<br />
to me, which I mean as a compliment.</p>
<p>29 December 2005: Here are three more sonnets from Mike<br />
Snider&#8221;s chap, <em>44 Sonnets</em>:<br />
.</p>
<p><strong>The Fall</strong></p>
<p>When we&#8217;d pile in my great-aunt&#8217;s Chevrolet<br />
And drive to see the trees turned red and gold,<br />
Grandma would scowl.  &#8220;Reminds me of death,&#8221; she&#8217;d say.<br />
&#8220;It means that everything is getting old.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, Helen, &#8216; after winter comes the spring.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
But she&#8217;d have none of that.  &#8220;It came and went<br />
For you and me, Sister.&#8221;  And then she&#8217;d sing<br />
&#8220;Go, tell Aunt Rhody,&#8221; just for devilment.</p>
<p>I have her picture, nineteen, sure to break<br />
The heart of every man she ever met &#8211;<br />
Another from her fifties, in a fake<br />
Nun&#8217;s habit sucking on a cigarette,</p>
<p>And both are faithful.  Grandma, you were right.<br />
There&#8217;s nothing grows in Fall except the night.<br />
.</p>
<p><strong>Homework</strong></p>
<p>My daughter&#8217;s learning how the planets dance,<br />
How curtseys to an unseen partner&#8217;s bow<br />
Are clues that tell an ardent watcher how<br />
To find new worlds in heaven&#8217;s bleak expanse,</p>
<p>How even flaws in this numerical romance<br />
Are fruitful: patient thought and work allow<br />
Mistake to marry meaning.  She writes now<br />
That Tombaugh spotting Pluto wasn&#8217;t chance.</p>
<p>Beside her, I write, too.  Should I do more<br />
Than nudge her at her homework while I try<br />
To master patterns made so long before<br />
My birth that stars since then have left the sky?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never know.  But what I try to teach<br />
Is trying.  She may grasp what I can&#8217;t reach.<br />
.</p>
<p><strong>What I know</strong></p>
<p>Always, always, always, I know this first&#8211;<br />
My dearest girl is gone, my daughter Lee<br />
I loved not well enough to keep with me&#8211;<br />
Of all the things I&#8217;ve failed to do, the worst.</p>
<p>Her poet mother&#8217;s supple brain was cursed<br />
To learn the language of pathology.<br />
When surgery failed they turned to drugs and she<br />
Began to dream of torture, dreams she nursed</p>
<p>To memories of children murdered by<br />
Her fathers and her mother and her will.<br />
I could not hold her to the truth.  She found<br />
At Duke a doctor who decided I</p>
<p>Was fondling Lee.  The judge said no, but still<br />
She took my Lee and held her underground.<br />
.</p>
<p>I posted these on the date of this entry, then wrote<br />
over the entry, so lost it. I seem to do something like<br />
that every three or four months, I don&#8217;t know why.<br />
The remarks I lost were penetrating, I&#8217;m sure, but I<br />
remember them only vaguely. One thing I remember<br />
is marveling at how smoothly well these poems (and<br />
the rest of Snider&#8217;s poems in his book) carry out the<br />
aims of Iowa plaintext lyrics&#8211;but employing rhymes<br />
(note, for example the abbaabba of the last one&#8217;s<br />
octave!) and fairly strict meter. Ergo, they deal<br />
sensitively with common human situations and end in<br />
effective epiphanies, all more or less conversationally&#8211;<br />
but with the plus of the significantly extra verbal<br />
music that meter and rhyme can provide.</p>
<p>One value of being forced to re-type, and re-consider<br />
a poem one is critiquing, as I&#8217;ve had to do with these,<br />
is that it can sometimes lead to an improved interpretation.<br />
That&#8217;s what happened to me just now. For who knows<br />
what reason, I didn&#8217;t realize that the persona of the poem<br />
was writing poetry, so had him working on astronomy. So<br />
I missed the wonderfully fertile juxtaphor (implict metaphor)<br />
of writing verse for astronomy (and the ones of either for<br />
doing homework, or learning in general). And of poems for<br />
the sky-charts&#8211;explained sky-charts&#8211;of astronomy. All<br />
this along with the now stronger explicit comparison of the<br />
father&#8217;s work toward mastery of poetry with his daughter&#8217;s<br />
toward mastery of schoolwork, and the simple, conventional,<br />
but not pushy moral of the poem, &#8220;trying is what counts.&#8221;<br />
Consequently, I now count this poem a masterpiece; the<br />
others are &#8220;only&#8221; good solid efforts. Good brief character<br />
studies, too.</p>
<p>In my lost comments, I mentioned the value of formal<br />
verse to its engagents for finding an order for life&#8217;s<br />
difficulties&#8211;and suggesting that they, like similar difficulties<br />
timelessly made into similar art, will pass. I also referred<br />
to the pleasure an engagent of a sonnet or other piece<br />
of formal verse, when effective, will get from the poet&#8217;s<br />
dexterity&#8211;like someone listening to a fine pianist playing<br />
Rachmaninoff, say, getting both musical pleasure, and a<br />
kind of (voyeuristic, sub-behavioral kinesthetic) pleasure<br />
from his physical skill at the keyboard. I&#8217;m sure I came up<br />
with a somewhat origianl third value, but now I can&#8217;t<br />
remember what it was. No doubt, it will become famous<br />
as Grumman&#8217;s lost insight the way Fermat&#8217;s lost proof did.</p>
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